OT: Kennedy's Seizure...

Absolutely not. The generic subject is "Outsiders who might affect a politician." That category encompasses Paul Wolfowitz as well as the outsiders you mentioned, like Jackson, Sharpton, etc. Don't you remember studying set theory in high school?

It's that he's black.

Friends like Jackson, Sharpton, and Farrakahn don't matter at all in regards to real policies, while friends like Wolfowitz do.

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Of which "conservatives" do you speak? The only ones I see in Washington are Jeff Flake and Ron Paul.

He is white, just like you. ;)

I'm referring to people who describe themselves as conservatives, whether they actually are or not. Most also call themselves Christians, similarly, yet object to a certain Christian minister who criticized America for not following Christian doctrine.

A conservative will not be elected president in November, that's for sure.

But, I'll vote for the next best and that is McCain.

Ah...you mean the fake saints. Now we're on the same page.

You should get off the wolfowitz bit, he's been out of the picture for quite some time now joe.

All politicians who describe themselves as conservative, including the president.

you get the point

When do you think was the last time he was *IN* the picture?

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I see. So if I call myself the Pope, I am the Pope.

That would make President Reagan a 'new breed of liberal' since he signed an amnesty law for illegal immigrants.

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Reagan also cut and ran from Lebanon following a terrorist attack.

And laughed as one of our primary enemies in the Middle East became a nuclear power, while selling the technology to Iran. Actually, he more than laughed. He stood in the way of at least one sting operation in this country which could've impeded the spread of the technology.

We're still paying for his crimes.

You are offering a specific example or a larger thing: Outsiders.

What sort of work do you do? It certainly doesn't involve anything logical.

What kind of work?

You can't dismiss Wolfowitz so easily. Get to the library. He's a willing audience for various insane spooks from the Middle East, and three presidents have been *his* willing audience. Wolfowitz is dangerous.

Get to the libary, little Jeff.

I was reading - a few weeks ago (but where? Time, Newsweek??) that, despite his past probs - he was still trying to keep himself in the picture.

Cathy

You introduced Obama's acquaintances to the discussion. Unless you can erase newsgroup history, you can't deny what you've done and try and shave off that part of the discussion.