Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

Someone being in "liberal circles" implies that they're made of brick from the neck up anyway, so what do I care what they think? :-)

I get great amusement from how liberalism claims to be the enlightened, unbiased, non-jugemental, "tolerant" political philosophy, yet begins immediately pigeonholing everyone according to the most insulting stereotypes imagineable. "From the south? Inbred, toothless, uneducated deluded fools." "From Texas? Shoot-first-ask-later cowboy menality." "From the midwest? Poor deluded unenlightened red-stater." And God forbid you be a conservative and an ethnic minority, because well, "you just CAN'T naturally believe that way! You've been bought and paid for and made a tool of the right-wing conspiracy!"

"From New England? Toffeenosed, paternalistic nanny-statist."

The point is that I have seen little support for the PT Cruiser from anybody. Personally I don't that much care for its appearance, though I am told it is actually quite practical. Quite a few to be seen in London. One of my acquaintances here in London claims to really like its retro looks... but he is still driving his Saab...

I agree that there are other cars that vie for the ugliness prize.

DAS

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What, you mean these are not accurate descriptions...?

DAS

For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling

EVERYONE does it to a degree, no matter how hard we try not to. It strikes me as funny because (some) liberals are so loud about how they'd NEVER do something like that.

I don't know how long the PT has been available in Europe, but its kinda run its course over here. There was another minor flurry of interest when they brought out the turbo PT and the convertible, but nothing like the H-bomb that the first year of production set off. They sold SCADS of them. To say that it was a big success for Chrysler is an understatement. People either loved or hated them, and PLENTY loved them enough to buy one. Some Chrysler fans thought they drew too much influence from 30s Fords, but most people saw the 40's Chrysler T&C as the main source of inspiration. But there are so many now that it doesn't really engender any strong feelings when someone says they don't like them. Besides, the real PT fanatics don't hang out on r.a.m.c. anyway. They've got their own playpen somewhere on usenet.... ;-)

Dori A Schmetterl> The point is that I have seen little support for the PT Cruiser from

And the new-for-2006 facelift is just...sad.

"inflated" headlamps Clear-lens rear directional indicators, instead of amber Reshaped reversing lamps

It looks like a Chinese knockoff of itself.

Well, anybody except the market.

Who gives a s**t what it looks like as long as if handles well, doesn't rust and has a reasonably reliable and poky engine.

Appearance comes right at the bottom IMO when buying a mode of transport...

I'm not familiar with OK, but at least here (MD) our safety is so stringent you will probably end up paying more than $300 on the repairs your car "needs" to pass inspection to be legally registered. Yeah, it's a racket, but whaddayagonnado. Point is, any car that someone's willing to sell for $300 will probably end up scrapped, as nobody wants to take the chance of buying themselves more problems than they already had. You buy a $300 car, next thing you know it won't pass inspection and the bastard zoning inspector is giving you x amount of days to get rid of the "junk" car in your driveway that doesn't have plates on it or they're going to fine you etc. etc. etc... now you're out $300 plus $70 or whatever the inspection costs these days plus whatever you put into it trying to fix it up for inspection and then the junkman pays you $50 and hauls it away.

nate

Nope.

It pissed me (and the 999 ops) off no end when th AA claimed to be "The

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A similar argument could be put forward for utility companies - they`re only allowed orange flashing lights, but when all the lights go out including the telephone exchange for the police switchboard...

RNLI?

The message from Colin Wilson contains these words:

Doctors are allowed green flashing lights - there's posh!

Nope, Oregon.

The self-service issue used to come up via Initative petition every couple of years in the 70's and 80's, but it's been almost 2 decades since I've read that argument in the paper.

One of the things that kills it is that the State of Washington, to the north of Oregon, and just across the river from the most populous (and vote-powerful) metro area, has almost identical gasoline prices. This is very likely due to tax manipulations by the different states, but the upshot is that nobody in the Oregon political arena has been able to make an argument that getting self-serve in would drop gas prices, that would convince the majority of people to vote for it.

The gas station attendents here are either from 2 molds - first, ex-cons (and they look it, trust me), second, high-school kids doing after school jobs. The former, nobody in their right mind would argue with, the latter would not argue with you if you insisted on pumping your own gas. :-)

Ted

Amazing how the wife was so dizzy to do this, yet seemed to know down to the exact amount how much of each fuel was put in the tank, and in what sequence. ;-)

Must be quite refreshing to have a wife that actually admits to making mistakes! ;-)

Ted

Heh heh! I think in some areas, you pay the junkman $25 or $50 to haul it away.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

If you are going to drain the car's fuel, don't pay all that money to do what you can do yourself with a suction hose, followed by a Jerry can of diesel to refuel after draining.

Has it given you problems running on mix yet?

Which is pathological in a number of ways anyway :-/

I've never had to drive my own car through Oregon, but if I do I'll be sure to fill up *just* before I enter and never inside the state.