Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

And a lot easier to park than a Chrysler Grand Voyager too

Reversing camera notwithstanding !

Yes, that's what I said elsewhere.

Not entirely. I should have said large amounts over a short period.

In view of your position in the motor trade, I cannot expect you to say what your experience and common sense suggests that ratio might be.

It would seem to be about time that the manufacturers consider how many people are being put off from buying diesels by the tales of woe that spread far and wide from every mis-fuelling incident - and how close they are getting to infringing the 'fit for purpose' part of UK The Sale of Goods Act.

I, for one, would be happy to sacrifice some engine efficiency in return for a more robust product, that is able to cope, within reason, with the ups and down of everyday usage. In other words, a product that is 'fit for purpose'.

YES ! The OP who's WIFE made the Faux Pas

Pay attention Putney !

ITYM Got the Dizzy Wife into this mess in the first place

Anyhow, it's running sweet as a nut now, and a Chrysler mechanic just returned my earlier call and told me I'd done the right thing

So maybe the RAC really ***ARE*** the 4th emergency service ?

The oil is a good idea, and it may save the day. You'll know in a few months' time, so good luck.

Yes, but they frequently get it badly wrong. Hence the reason that FOrd still has a large collection of the letters E D S L in a drawer in Detroit.

The hardly supplied what the public wanted in a Mustang from 1970-2004 either, did they?

"Guy King" wrote

That is the price at which I would anticipate it would sell with a full MOT if I chose to sell it..

There are greater variations between dealers in the same town in my experience

Not common and not efficient for a quick turn-around of vehicles. What I want is a vehicle diagnosed, repaired and out of the door and back with the owner in one smooth cycle.

No. Something that high value would be VOR for next morning delivery. Are you as a dealer not penalised if you do not order a high percentage of your parts for stock? Most manufacturers have targets for stock and service orders as a percentage of all orders. If VOR's in particular exceed a percentage, perhaps as low as 15% of total orders, then discounts on parts will be lost and will cost the dealership loads of money.

I think your costed hours are weighted unrealistically to make your point.

Funny thing is, I have no problem with it and it certainly does not lead to changing unnecessary parts. I do however acknowledge that the most economical remedy is often impossible these days due to know-it-all [read 'know nothing'] customers wanting a full warranty on difficult repairs. In other words, if a system is repaired and something possibly not related in the same system fails within weeks, then the customer expects it to be repaired again free. As we know nothing is free, certainly not parts and labour, so it is becoming more common not to attempt a repair but to replace a whole system. This has the double advantage that less skilled labour is needed in car dealers because all they really need most of the time is a 'fitter' who can replace whole components with new ones which are fully covered by manufacturers warranty. I come from another part of a similar trade where stripping down and repairing components and systems is still normal and common practice and where this is often done on site, so the skills needed are in a different league really. No, I am not a mechanic, before you ask.

Huw

Indeed. I can even go the other way and say that I own a few engines that are not prone to sludge and which I double the manufacturers oil change interval using superior oil and have done so for years. Like you I know that one of my engines needs changing sooner than recommended. We are not robots, we are thinking beings. Some follow instructions blindly and some of us have the experience to modify and adapt as indicated by experience.

Huw

That's what I keep telling her. I don't think she believes me.

Huw

The last European Ford Escort was a case in point. However it bombed so badly that Ford burned their fingers resulting in the best range of cars that Ford have ever made IMO.

Huw

The message from Bill Putney contains these words:

Nonsense, you could make them external and out of nice light plastic. It's worked successfully for tensioners for ages.

(for those who've had their irony detection circuits removed I should point out that my tongue is firmly in my cheek)

That's nice. I don't own an Outback H6; I wish I did - and I might do next year if I find a good cheap one.

Richard

Since I paid £40 for a car with 6 months ticket and tax, and it would comfortably pass another MOT at a cost of £25 locally... I make that £65.

Proton ;)

Richard

From most car dealers that just took them in as a tradein.

Define "in the future". My gf commuted 140 miles a day, for 4 months, in a 1986 Nissan Sunny Pulsar saloon which cost £50.

Richard

Hmmm. If you ran your PC on 415V I think it would have been considered "fit for purpose" until you fried it. The villains, if there are any apart from the user, are the fuel companies who don't have a standard colour-coding for fuel nozzles.

Your mess now, though, isn't it? That's the way these things work...

I think the comment was about your use of the term "petrol tank".

I haven't read those links but it is the lubricity that is important not the viscosity, which varies with temperature. Any idea why BMW want the actual fuel tank changed other than to sell high value parts?

Huw