OMFG, look. The whole original point questions was basically, if
someone learns your VIN, could that enable them to get a key that will
let them steal your car.
The actual, truthful answer to that is this:
There is the potential that such could happen given the right
circumstances. Circumstances such as security standards adhered to
(or the lack of doing so), or "inside" people. In the real world,
security practices can often be lax and also in the real world,
trusted employees can aid thrives. So yeah, covering your VIN could
reduce your risk of being a victim of theft.
Is knowing a VIN a GUARANTEE of easily getting working keys made for a
vehicle you don't own? Nooooo, it isn't. But Mike (are you
listening), that wan't the question.
What I do know is there is nothing in the VIN that will get anybody, but the
registered owner off the vehicle, a key cut at a dealership. What I do
know is there is, it the selling dealer does not record the key code from
the tab on the keys when the car arrives at the dealership there will be no
record of the key code to connect the VIN to the key code. The original
question was. 'Can anybody read the VIN and go to a dealer and acquire a
key.' that is not going to happen not matter what you believe.
You are dead wrong about this. Since the mid '80 for sure, GM has in
its database the key codes for all cars tied to the VIN of the car,
along with the numbers of various subassemblies such as transmissions
The one circumstance where you would not be able to get key codes
for a GM car from GM is if the locks where changed AFTER the car was
built and the new locks where not coded the same as the originals.
Here again Mike, you talk out both sides of your ass. If there truly
were NO RELATIONSHIP between VIN and key code, dealers would NEVER
(not even sometimes) be able to obtain a key code by knowing the VIN.
Obviously one can get you the other. It's just a matter of how many
security measures may (or may not) be employed while doing so.
Here in Canada, the procedure is fairly simple. You go to an online
site called GMACCESS, type in the VIN number and you get all
sorts of info on the vehicle. RPO codes, warranty repair history,
key code information...etc. The security measure lies with the
person who either gets a call from somebody wanting a key code
or is dealing with a live customer who wants another key cut. That's
the only real security measure.
Can't make a key copy BUT they can apply your VIN
to a ALREADY STOLEN car. Happened to me in FL
4 yrs ago. Crooks stole a 99 Caddy (in 2002) in Alabama
and someone copied my VIN and re-painted the car
and put on a fake VIN plate. Had my car impounded
for 2 days as possible stolen while the local PD checked
things out. (Identity Theft for Cars. Now you know why I keep
a piece of black electrical tape over my VIN plate.
- The key code is cross-referenced to the VIN. A reputable dealer will ask for a photo ID, and the title, before looking up the code and cutting the key but a disreputable person with access to the dealer's computer can look up the code and cut the key.
On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 07:36:47 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Yes, as they should.
My boss went to Europe and took his key. His wife used the car and
locked the keys inside. No one would use a slim jim as there was a lot
that could go wrong. It took some doing for the dealer to give the
information to a local locksmith that knows who we are.
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