The Cash for Clunkers program was designed to spur people to buy new
vehicles when they would have otherwise NOT bought at all. The government
'cash' may have gone to the consumer (wink wink), but the purpose odf the
program was to provide yet another form of bailout to the auto industry.
Ford makes the cars that people most wanted to get rid of. The fact that
many of them went back to Ford and said 'thank you sir, may I have another',
is a really sad commentary on American consumers.
Of course, if you wanted to get rid of an old Toyota you were likely out of
luck since old Toyotas got such good gas mileage that you would have had to
buy an electric/hybrid vehicle in order to see a 'clunkers' qualifying
level of improvement.
Very few of the Cash For Clunkers cars were 25 year old models, though many
of the newer Toyota models were not eligible simply because they already got
good gas mileage. In the end, 5 of the top 10 most junked cars were FORD, 3
Mopar and 2 Chevy.
Look at the most traded-in versus the most-purchased lists. This program
was a boon for Toyota and Honda. At least most of the vehicles purchased
were made in the U.S..
People used the program to get rid of their Ford, GM, and Chrysler
vehicles, with five of the top ten vehicles traded in being Fords, three
being Chrysler's, and two being GMs.
Mike, at least go read the list of most traded in vehicles. None were
1980 to 1987 Explorers - which should be obvious since the Ford
Explorer SUVs weren't intriduced until 1990 (for the 1991 Model Year).
There were special models of full size pickups that were "Explorer"
models but they aren't the SUVs and they aren't on the list.
But that is mostly becasue people were trading in old trucks and SUVs.
Ford sold more of those in the 90's than anyone else, so it isn't
surprising that they were popular models to trade in. Wouldn't you
like $4500 for a 14 year old Explorer? Or a 14 year old 4Runner? There
were just lots of old Explorers out there. If I had one, I'd have
traded it in.
Most of the Fords that people got rid of were older SUVs. Since during
the 90's Ford Explorers were by far the selling SUV is it any surpirse
that they were one of the leading vehicles that were traded in? Six of
the top ten vehicles traded in were old 12 to 16 year old Explorers.
Maybe that is a clue that Fords are pretty reliable. The most
pruchased clunker replacement car was a Ford Focus.....
If you are trying to claim that there was a set improvement that you
had to achieve in order to qualify for the clash for clunkers program,
then you are wrong. There wasn't a qualifying level of imporvement.
You just had to trade in a vehicle on the list of qualifying clunkers
and buy a vehicle on the list of qualifying replacements. The
improvement in gas mileage between the two was irrelevant. So older
Corollas wouldn't qulaify, but older 4Runners would. The same was true
with regards to Focus' and Explorers. The only reason older Toyota
trucks weren't on the list of most tradde clunkers is becasue they
sold so few in the first place. If every 4Runner sold in 1996 had been
traded in as a clunker, they still wouldn't have made the top ten.
There jsut weren't enough of them left around to qualify. And of
course, given the love some people have for Toyotas, they might have
been considered to valuable to trade in as a clunker. A vehicle needed
to be on the list AND be worth less than the rebate. I suspect that
many owners of 1994 4Runners might believe their vehicles to be worth
more than $4500. I doubt many 1994 Explorer owners were so foolish.
(for the record, kbb lists a 1994 Explorer with a trade in value of
around $700, a 1994 4Runner has a trade in value of a round $1200).
I guess this was a case of dueling references:
I should have paid more attention to the dates. Sorry for the
The definitive refence matches yours. See
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/2009/dot13309.htm . The following data is
from that reference:
Number Submitted: 690,114
Dollar Value: $2,877.9M
Top 10 New Vehicles Purchased
Ford Focus FWD
Ford Escape FWD
New Vehicles Manufacturers
Toyota - 19.4%
General Motors - 17.6%
Ford - 14.4%
Honda - 13.0%
Nissan - 8.7%
Hyundai - 7.2%
Chrysler - 6.6%
Kia - 4.3%
Subaru - 2.5%
Mazda - 2.4%
Volkswagen - 2.0%
Suzuki - 0.6%
Mitsubishi - 0.5%
MINI - 0.4%
Smart - 0.2%
Volvo - 0.1%
All Other - <0.1%
Top 10 Trade-in Vehicles
Ford Explorer 4WD
Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
Ford Explorer 2WD
Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan 2WD
Jeep Cherokee 4WD
Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
Ford F150 Pickup 4WD
Ford Windstar FWD Van
Vehicles Purchased by Category
Passenger Cars: 404,046
Category 1 Truck: 231,651
Category 2 Truck: 46,836
Category 3 Truck: 2,408
Vehicle Trade-in by Category
Passenger Cars: 109,380
Category 1 Truck: 450,778
Category 2 Truck: 116,909
Category 3 Truck: 8,134
84% of trade-ins under the program are trucks, and 59% of new vehicles
purchased are cars. The program worked far better than anyone
anticipated at moving consumers out of old, dirty trucks and SUVs and
into new more fuel-efficient cars.
Average Fuel Economy
New vehicles Mileage: 24.9 MPG
Trade-in Mileage: 15.8 MPG
Overall increase: 9.2 MPG, or a 58% improvement
Cars purchased under the program are, on average, 19% above the
average fuel economy of all new cars currently available, and 59%
above the average fuel economy of cars that were traded in. This means
the program raised the average fuel economy of the fleet, while
getting the dirtiest and most polluting vehicles off the road.
Yes...12 to 16 year old cars is a far cry from the claim that they were 25
year old cars. Really, isn't it a bit sad that 12 year old cars are headed
for the junk yard already becasu ethey owners are ready to chuck them on the
scrap heap? The vehicles being junked most (Ford Explorers) had lost almost
all resale value in just over a decade.
Why? All cars should last a decade...most do it without being in such piss
poor shape that they have no resale value and their owners want to dump them
in the trash for a few bucks discount on a newer car.
Out of date data covering only thr first week or so of the program. Only a
couple of Ford even made the Top10 for purchased vehicles while half of the
top 10 for junked vehicles came from Ford.
If you car got over 18MPG, then it wasn't eligible as a clunker. That limit
alone took many of the Toyota/Honda/Nissan/etc... models out of contention
for this financial welfare. Ford Explorwers, on the other hand, moved to
the top of the list because of their lousy gas mileage.
That is not true. The amount of the rebate was tied to the amount of gas
We agree: If a vehicle still runs well, owners are less likely to deem it a
clunker worthy of the scrap heap.
Yep. Vehicles with any significant resale value coulnd't be cashed in as
What makes you think a 1984 Explorer, that actually came to market in July
of 1983, is not a 25 year old model? Even if one only drove 15,000 mileage
it would have nearly 400,000 miles on the odometer. Even a 1989 would have
almost 325,000 miles.
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