Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

Hmmm. If you ran your PC on 415V I think it would have been considered "fit for purpose" until you fried it. The villains, if there are any apart from the user, are the fuel companies who don't have a standard colour-coding for fuel nozzles.

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Zog The Undeniable
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Your mess now, though, isn't it? That's the way these things work...

I think the comment was about your use of the term "petrol tank".

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Ian Dalziel

I haven't read those links but it is the lubricity that is important not the viscosity, which varies with temperature. Any idea why BMW want the actual fuel tank changed other than to sell high value parts?

Huw

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Huw
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As far as the Focus goes I can't disagree.

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Andy Hewitt
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There is, but what's that to do with it?

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I'm afraid it is.

Agreed.

Can't argue with that.

Mind you, in our case there isn't enough warranty volume for it to be an issue.

No, most manufacturers work on a two day stock delivery, you only get penalised if you want it next day. In our case we can order stock for next day up to 3pm.

We only get penalised if we order too much after the cut off.

Not here, they've almost eliminated the need for it.

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Do you now. What would you use then?

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Absolutely. Can you blame us though?

Obviously not dealing with retail in the same way then?

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Andy Hewitt
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Indeed. However, our experience of damage to the CTDI engine is somewhat limited so far, so I'll pass on opinion there. The AA reckon *any* petrol can cause damage.

Fit for purpose cannot allow for negligence, and that's basically what it is.

FWIW, I don't think Honda would be too unhappy if diesel cars were never sold again, they didn't really want to enter the market in the first place.

Indeed, the old diesel systems, with a little bit of extra development, could perhaps be almost as efficient as the direct injections are.

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Andy Hewitt

Go and check the links I posted elsewhere, there are meetings about this happening as we argue.

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Andy Hewitt

Shouldn't you factor in what it cost you for the brick? ;-)

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Ian Dalziel

I am not going to argue with that as AFAIK there is no definitive amount although there might be a figure that gives an absolute guarantee that no damage will be done. It is easy to state this figure as zero petrol to be safe. I won't put a figure on it myself. Adding oil to the mix is certain to mitigate the effect and also to use the car intensively so that the mix does not remain in static contact with the pump innards for too long. The ultimate of course would be to empty the tank and to remove and replace all parts in contact with the mix and this is the rather ridiculous overkill advocated by some for all incidents it seems. Carry on if that makes you happy and allows sounder sleep.

Huw

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Huw

You could make them out of enviromentally friendly fibre....

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Duncanwood

They do if their circumstances change. The mundaneo in question was sold because the bloke had retired and they only needed one car so decided to keep their smaller newer one.

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Dr Zoidberg

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Don't they? I've not seen anything but Green for UL, Red for LRP and Black for diesel. Those annoying adverts can be distracting though.

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Guy King

The message from Duncanwood contains these words:

Indian hemp?

Reply to
Guy King

I don't think the customer considers the volume, but I accept that you have few serious warranty claims.

In my case I can order up to 6pm for next day 8am for most of the year but with a 5pm order deadline at other times. Service orders are similar to what you describe but stock orders are collated once a week for delivery within one week but if they are out of manufacturers stock these will take a lower priority while they have the highest discount rate.

Since you are asking for hypothetical times for hypothetical jobs then I could well slant the figures in any way I liked but I won't.

Given that you probably don't know your customers then no.

Oh yes. Retail but with a rather superior service.

Huw

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Huw

It was disaster alley for Ford. The Sierra was a dubious looker, the Scorpio and Escort were complete disasters. After that trio they really had to get their act sorted.

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Steve Firth

My use of the words 'within reason' was intended to stop people from coming up with examples of gross misuse.

It would seem that something more than just standard colour-coding of nozzles is needed to deal with the problem of mis-fuelling.

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Peter

Nah, that's recyclable. ;-)

John

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John Greystrong

Essex Straw

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Duncanwood

Yes it needs humans who are not in a trance or on mind bending drugs. It needs humans who are alert and can tell the difference between green guns and black ones and knowing how to read the big 'DIESEL' sign on their car filler cap/flap. Given all that, as in all walks in life, accidents happen. Not to me though :-) because my whole fleet is diesel and they seldom get filled at filling stations. Aren't I a smug git.

Huw

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Huw

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Yes they do, and they should be legislated out of the equation as far as is possible.

There is no reason why fuel tank filler holes and the relevant fuel dispensing nozzles should not be made mechanically compatible so that the vehicle cannot receive the wrong fuel. Further, this could eliminate fuel spillage, which is dangerous especially to motorcyclists, and speed up the dispensing of fuel as it could be an enclosed system. Just think "Formula 1 fuel rig"

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Knight Of The Road

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