Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

85% of parts my company supply are in stock at our depots. Only 5% of all parts from the main franchise is on back-order at Cat Logistics Desford at any time and most of those will be on non urgent stock order from us. From my experience with some car dealers they carry very few parts indeed and the manufacturers are woeful at supplying parts ordered from them. Andy paints a rosy picture of what happens at most car dealers. My experience is that they are generally a shambles and my company now only deals with a select number of dealers who keep adequate stock of parts to supply us. We will not waste our time doing business with what are effectively amateurs who piss us around even if they supply parts somewhat cheaper. Our standards are high and we expect the same service from our business partners. Downtime is unacceptable.

Huw

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Huw
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Oh yes let's. I have beer in the fridge.

Huw don't take that seriously please.

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Huw

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That was the nice thing about Volvo parts - even a full painted nose cone from Sweden was only three days.

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Tim S Kemp

You mean that you agree? This could be the start of some kind of love-in.

Huw

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Huw

NOw I've got beer on the keyboard. How long did it take them to find a tank lining that was damaged by petrol & not diesel :-)

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Duncanwood

"Andy Hewitt" wrote >

Well that is a bit off. Best avoid BMW then. Oops, I've recently sold a diesel BMW and now have what is essentially another BMW, a diesel Range Rover. Oh well, I can only take comfort from the fact that it will probably never happen to me or my wife. My daughter is another story altogether but when she gets to drive next year she will probably get a small diesel car, not for the economy but for the convenience of standardisation with one fuel filled from my own 7000 litre store for exclusive use of my cars and light commercials.

Huw

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Huw

Do them stores get checked regularly by HMCR for their veggy oil content ;)

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Tim S Kemp

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Millions of Deutchmark spent in research and development was not wasted. They even went to the expense of a different material for petrol tanks to fit in the same space on the car. Wow.

Huw

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Huw
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It still doesn't mean I like them, but it has to be hard to make a worse car than the last Escorts.

I have to admit that of all the cars we tested on our New Civic day, the Focus was actually the biggest worry.

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Andy Hewitt
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I have no idea, although they are both different chemicals anyway, petrol would dissolve many things where diesel would not.

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Andy Hewitt
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Jeezus, you have 85% parts stock??? that must be crippling. I would suspect your statement there is wrong too, nearly all main dealers have nothing in stock, it would be commercial suicide to do otherwise, especially now we have such short stock order times.

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Andy Hewitt

I suspect it's a self-sealing liner. As both fuels have different flow characteristics surely the liner would need to be designed differently for optimum performance.

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Andy Hewitt

Here in the East coast of the USA, back in the 60's, we had a number of 2 cycle Saab's running around. Especially in the State of Conn., where most seemed to have been sold, gas station attendents would automatically add 2 cycle oil into the tank after filling up the little tike with petroleum.

When Saab switched to 4 stroke motors it was very common for station attendents to add the 4 stroke oil into the tank.

It seems that whenever people are involved mistakes of this kind will happen. [At least that mistake would not kill the motor]. A different size fill port would make a great idea for diesel fueled vehicles, especially if this catches on in North America.

Richard.

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Richard

We have over £1.75million of parts for many big names in stock including bearings, engine parts, steering, transmission brake etc etc. chains filters oils greases and many tools, welders etc which are stocked front of shop, supermarket style, which I suspect is more stock than some manufacturers keep and gives you some idea of the scale and scope of operations. We have just opened a third depot and the second to have a major franchise area and currently have five fully equipped service vans allocated to workshop staff who can use these for home service and repairs in and out of normal business hours. We also have two recovery trucks which double as new and used delivery trucks to collect and return vehicles if that is more convenient to the customer and ourselves. Up until now most common rail repair work [as in reconditioning etc, not dismantling and reassembling] has been outsourced to a specialist. Our Mercedes Vito is currently with Shorts, a big mistake because we mistakenly diagnosed a fuel system problem which turned out to be bent conrods. We could easily have reconditioned this engine in-house but it is now in bits many miles away with no-one apparently able to put it back together. It will probably end up with a new engine partly paid for by insurance. Present costings indicate that there will be a grand bill plus VAT even insurance adjustments. We won't be buying another Vito.

Huw

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Huw
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That is a fundamentally different point from that of a reasonable person making the mistake of mis-fuelling a car - a mistake that evidently is easily made, judging by the reports that tens of thousands of people do it a year.

I think we are both coming at this from our own work backgrounds and we are unlikely to agree, so I will leave it there. Thank you, sincerely, for your time.

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Peter

It's a tank for Gawd's sake!

Huw

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Huw

As it happens they *could* be inspected at any time especially as I use a similar quantity of red diesel for another business. I use so much derv that it is not realistic to think that I would dilute it, especially running so many common-rail engines ;-)

Huw

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Huw

You may have the advantage that it is not yet commonplace so it might work. However it would have to be a smaller nozzle to work and I am a great believer in bigger nozzles for faster filling. A square nozzle would be good. A tight fitting octagonal with remote venting one even better. There is nothing worse than diesel spitting back over your shoes as the tank fills. One of the worse offenders for this is the US built Mercedes ML270CDi. A real pig to fill.

Huw

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Huw
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Are you talking genuine parts or pattern stuff here?

Haven't thought to work out the cause of bent conrods then?

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Andy Hewitt
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I can assure you, noise is not an issue with the new one, and the diesel is the 2.2 lump from the Accord.

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Andy Hewitt

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