Done a new Golf GTi in the traffic light Grand Prix!

Jul 20, 2007 120 Replies

Come off it - we're talking about something with a live axle, cart sprints and sod all weight over the driven wheels.

So, yes, I'm fairly confident a bike would leave a Crapi for dead - not least because the bike can make better use of the available road.

You showed me a couple of show cars and a couple of rare cars.

I haven't seen a 'good' (but not show) condition car selling for much over a grand yet.

But it's all irrelevent - given that the Crapi was out of production by the time the 75 went into production.

To compare like for like you'd have to look at an Alfetta GTV. Even rough GTVs sell for 'HFM!' these days.

I can confidently say that, once my 75 is 25 years old, it'll be worth a lot more than a 25 year old Crapi is worth today.

If it helps, when my car is 25 years old it will be worth more than a 25 year old Crapi or a 25 year old 75 :-) Or both put together probably :-p

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It doesn't help at all, though. It just proves that you're a pathetic f*ck that can't accept when he makes a false statement. As has been proved on multiple occasions in the uk.rec.cars.* newsgroumd.

People have much more respect for people that can admit they're wrong, Steve.

Oops. I spelt newsgroup wrong. I'm drunk, though.

Forgive me Lord, I admit I'm wrong.

Ahhhha my mistake!

But even so, surely, it'll go up like an unchained angel, or a fart in a bath, you know having perfect this and that..?

See that, up there.

Where I say I was wrong?

Which bit don't you understand?

Will you find a 25 year old Capri when your car is 25 years old?

A 75 won't be too hard to find but it will be a Rover.

I doubt it, but note I was very careful to say "than a 25 year old Capri" :-)

In news:OgAoi.1739$ snipped-for-privacy@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk, Sandy Nuts wittered on forthwith;

I like Italian s**te. I also like Capris.

I'd choose a 3.0 Capri over an Alfa 75 every time, mainly because the Capri is more fun to drive and possible to drive without major surgery just in order to get comfy.

As for the Capri making more than a grand more than a 75, just look at the prices Capri 280s regularly fetch - significantly more than 75s do.

Eh? - I've never had an issue with comfort in the 75 - there's plenty of scope for adjustment.

We both know that the 280 is a special case.

Comparison between 'cooking' 2lt versions of each car are more relevent than looking at a relatively rare special edition of one car.

Besides that, I think it'll be another 10 years before the 3.0 75s become rare enough to fetch lots of money - remember, even the oldest of the phase 2 cars is still under 20 years old.

I still stand by the fact that a 2lt Capri *isn't* going to fetch a grand more than my 75 unless it's better than 'condition 1' standard.

I've never been able to get comfy in a 75. I love the things (well, the 3.0 ones) but after half an hour or so I'm screaming for more legroom.

The 2.8i and 3.0 are going up in value at a rate of knots though. Look at the money Mk2 RS2000's are fetching, V6 Capris will be up there soon enough.

2.0 Capris and 2.0 75s are both s**te though, neither of which will ever be worth close to the money that the proper ones fetch. So you're probably right about the Capri not being worth a grand more than the 75 as the 2.0 Capri and 2.0 75 will never fetch close to the value of their respective V6 models.

One of the reasons why I sold the pretty immaculate 2.0 Laser I had was because it was never going to be worth spending money on. If it'd been a V6 there'd be no way I'd have sold it.

Only utter wankers restore 4 pot Capris.

I don't think 75 3.0s will ever fetch more than about £6k. 280 Capris are close to double that for a mint one already.

I disagree. There are lots more people who love Capris than love 75s. That means there's a larger market for the Capri and more people who'd be willing to buy one. People aren't scared of a Capri being unreliable, they're not scared of Capri electrics or part availability.

The 75 has a much smaller following than the Capri, to most people it's an ugly old saloon car, no matter how good a car drives if it's ugly it's not going to be worth much. Especially if it's old and ugly.

Speak for yourself... plenty of people like "Italian s**te". Just not that many of us are brave enough to risk it :)

I keep finding myself scanning Alfas on eBay at the moment with a few to picking something up, purely because I've never had one. Can't make my mind up what to go for though.

Suggestions on a postcard... :)

In news: snipped-for-privacy@news.ntlworld.com, Lordy.UK wittered on forthwith;

75 *3.0* 164 24v GTV 24v (FWD but good) GTV V6 (75 in prettier body) 155 Q4 164 Q4 156 GTA 147 GTA 155 2.0 (widebody, avoid 8v and narrowbody ones)

Avoid most of the others, although the 156 is a nice car if you avoid the sillyspeed. 156 2.5s sound nice but the 156 2.0 is the better car.

I'd never have a Q4, 'cos they're just not proper Alfas.

I prefer my Lancias to have a Lancia badge ;-)

I nearly bought a 147 GTA :-) All the others are too old/ugly heh. Well I'd have the 156 GTA if I had a family/was old.

They're Integrales in a sensible suit. If you remove the silly electronic shockers and get a decent re-chip (mine had the Biasion chip and fuel pump mod) they're a very nice car indeed.

The 155 rusts a lot less than the 'grale and is much less likely to be noticed at warp speed.. Handy Q car if ever there was one.

The 164 Q4 is genius.

Perhaps I shot myself in the foot with that one, I snipped your pathetic attempt to try redeem your statement.

"You were wrong.....yebbut"

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