Ford Puma

Indeed, you'd slate it for it's lack of space, choppy ride, poor seats, stupid 2.1V6 that uses too much fuel for such a slow car and stunning depreciation. S60 is the best PAG Ford car in the price range - also available with 4wd and big BHP, more than the X type, for similar money.

It doesn't surprise me that Jaguar is losing money, I'd rather have a French car than an X type, the S type is perfect in almost every way but is terminally ugly and far too "retro" to be a popular choice against the five and the E, the XJ is wonderful, but can never make the volumes required to support Jaguar.

X type should have been based on the P1 Volvo platform - would have been more roomy, still had AWD available to it and still possible to get a V8 under the bonnet - albeit a yamaha one...

Which shows the superiority of the K series engine, who's head and ECU were retained when Lotus made the Elise.

The new XK is jaw-droppingly gorgeous though and apparently the new S due soon has had the Callum treatment too - I reckon it'll be stunning.

Have I missed something here? I thought we were talking about the Zetec?

You may have paid over the odds, I never did.

Silly little girlie car, IMHO.

My missus wouldn't be seen dead in anything so ridiculous.

As if she has a say in what she gets to drive... ;-)

Well she is with you, so obviously has no taste anyway :)

Heh. There is a _little_ truth in this.

However, having suggested she bought a sensible, girlie car last time she was car shopping for her own car (rather than having one of my old ones) she came back with an Alfa 33, then proclaimed it 'dangerous' on the no-name tyres, insisting we got it re-shod with a set of Pirellis.

She'd kill me if I took the 75 off her.

You've trained her well.

-- Peter

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But the X-Type is universally praised !

I was looking to get a 3.0 Sport to replace the TI, and every review I could find said they were *excellent* !

I think you're being narrow-minded Tim again :)

Good to hear about a woman with taste, and enough knowledge to be dangerous ;)

Six years old, 105k, it had a full service history unknown to the seller, I noticed a AA tax disc holder and called in at the local AA service centre. I gave em the reg no. and the computer churned out 10-15 pages of history :)

I changed the coolant as soon as I got it, I serviced it and changed the thermostat which was stuck open (common mondeo fault), coolant looked ok.

Kas have a rust warranty? :)

Ahhh the K-series, the reason why Ford was sniffing around Rover.

So they only wanted half the engine then?

Your point being?

Note the term "relatively" heh.

I've not heard of any Zetec, Zetec-E or Zetec-SE donks chewing through a sump of oil in two hundred miles.

I have heard of a few 1.7 Zetec-SEs chewing through a sump of oil in 7,500 miles though.

No, Yamaha had input into the design, they didn't do all of the work.

Not even that. A block is probably only a quarter of the engine. ISTR the bottom end, pistons, rods and head were all bespoke. Which leaves a lump of metal with some holes in it.