Oh, BTW, locally, could only vote LibDem, Labour or Green. Tories didn't even bother with a candidate in our ward. No chance of voting lieing labour, and I don't want my car turned into a garden planter, so the greens are out. I guess I had to vote lib dem. nationally I did agree with a lot of their policies, even though they tend to be locally "as bad as all the others put together". Better the devil you know.