An inconvenient Truth (OT)

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Never underestimate the power of an entrenched bureaucracy.

Jeff DeWitt

Alex Magdaleno wrote:

Why thank you!

Jeff DeWitt

Lee Aanderud wrote:

Wrong yet again Mike, and twice this time. Greelands glaciers are melting at a record pace.

So much for your ambient temperature theory. As for the water level, ice is less dense than water and thus floats with some of the ice above the water line. However, the weight of the ice displaces the exacts same weight of water. Thus, when the ice melts the height of the water does not change at all.

The people in power are the Republicans.They do not promote global warming to meet their end, they promote a disbelief in it to meet their ends And we are far from the mosr environmentally friendly country.

The National Academy of Scientists for one. I suppose you want to take them on. Yes, we have been hotter in the past. It appears that it is happening much faster now. And it may be very instructive that man did not live on earth during those hot times. Perhaps that was because we could not have survived the conditions of the time.

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How many times can you be wrong Mike? I would think you would learn to stop taking on John. What he said was true. You keep falling victim to the "little bit of knowledge" syndrome. Yes, Greenland was warmer when the Vikings settled there but it was not anywhere near "all green". The coasal areas in the south were green in the summer. They only colonized two places and both were in the lower third of the island.

No one disputes that, and it is a sideline. I'm sure we will have healthy trees we we are long gone.

>>> This is exactly what others have laughed about and mocked - and it seems >>> to be happening. When arctic temperatures are abnormally high, vast >>> pools of water form on the glacier and bore down to the land underneath. >>> The result is enormous fields of ice breaking off and sliding into the >>> north atlantic. If it continues it absolutely can and will raise sea >>> level by 21 feet. It's not fantasy any more.>>>

Yes, that is what your high school teacher would tell you, and that is basically what the sagas say. The real truth is that Greenland was much greener at that time than it is now, the part of Greenland that is not ice covered becomes quite green during the summer so the name is not hard to understand even today. The coastal parts, especially in the south are not all solid ice you know.

So hot and cold air causes the jet stream? The page only has written on it what they want you to read. Jeff

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Oh my! It rained in the northeast, and a tree fell over! What can we write about today! Film at 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.........) Jeff (post's on the odd minutes...) Rice

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OK Alex... "If" they were 100% on board with your desired path... What would change? Not a damned thing would change. Nothing changed when 'they' were in power either. Shoot, it was a Republican who gave us the beauracracies of OSHA and the EPA (iirc), and see what they have changed.. Your comments point out the fruitless nature of political hatred. Even if we were the most environmentally friendly country on this infected ball of a planet, it would not change a thing. The shift would just move to the next most environmentally unfriendly country. Political protest and unrest moves from country to country, depending on the opportunity available to exploit that particular system. (I intentionally left the word socialist out of that sentence) Look at all the protests that were held in Germany 20 years ago, and France

15 years ago, and Ireland a while back. Th> The people in power are the Republicans.They do not promote global warming

Heck, Greenland was named Greenland by a lying real estate guy trying to sell property there...

Yes, that is what your high school teacher would tell you, and that is

So we can blame every rain shower from now on on global warming. If the whining idiots in Kalifornia would shut their mouths for 10 minutes the earth's temperature would probably drop by 3 degrees.

Lee

So what caused the global warming 400 years ago? Automobile exhaust? Coal-fired power plants?

Climate is NOT constant. Never has been. We have ZERO reason to expect that our climate should remain the way "we" like it. And zero reason to expect that there is a damn thing we can do about it if "we" don't like the changes that happen.

Trying to "reverse" climate change is like trying to bail out the ocean with a teaspoon. We would be better off using our economic resources to mitigate the effects of climate change, irrespective of its alleged cause.

Gord Richmond

Geeze, we're having a cooler and wetter Summer for far here in Alberta. 2" of rain in the last 2 weeks.

You can't look at weather records for a few years, or even a few decades, find a trend line, and then extrapolate that trend indefinitely.

Climate and weather are cyclical, and there are a number of different cyclical processes at work, all with different periods. And then there are random events, or perhaps they only seem random to us because they are part of a cycle which we haven't yet recognized.

IMHO, "Global Warming" or "Climate Change" as a "crisis", as opposed to simply a "phenomenon" is being pushed by people who are well-known for having a globalist-internationalist-interventionist agenda. Al Gore and Maurice Strong being among them. They have hung their hat on this "crisis" in an effort to manipulate people into giving them extraordinary power. If it wasn't climate change, it'd be something else.

Gord Richmond

True, I think it's generally accepted that "Greenland" was a bit of creative marketing on Erik's part. Doesn't alter the fact, though, that Viking settlement of Greenland and Vinland (modern-day Newfoundland) did occur during an exceptionally warm period in historical climate. The coast of Greenland COULD support the pastoralist Viking lifestyle, and they COULD raise grapes in Newfoundland then. When the climate cooled, those colonies failed. I've been to Greenland, and seen an abandoned Viking village for myself.

Gord Richmond