BP/AMOCO pipeline rant--semi OT

But 'We' are the government. I still stand by what I said. My head is not in the sand, and it will still speak out what is true and what I feel is right. That's all. No need to agree or disagree. 'We' have sold our responsibilities as citizens to people who do not represent what we are electing them for. 'We' have noone to blame but ourselves for putting people into office based on our own greed and payola schedules. To suddenly interject Nazi's is a cheap methodology of debate. Trust an elected official? Now THAT is funny...and terrifying. Our government has screwed up the energy system way past irrational. The government should stay the heck out of it. The government should follow the constitution and work for the citizens, not the other way around. Jeff

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karinhall

Yes, but who allowed that kind of control? Slowly creeping in under the apathy of the citizenship lulled by goodies provided for them without them having earned them. And we are a republic and not a pure democracy. Jeff

"kar> Uh, we elect people "they" want us to elect. The real decisions are made

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John Poulos

That would scare Rick Courtier shitless!

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Here's the scoop:

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That would scare Rick Courtier shitless!

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John Poulos

The "they" in who "they want us to elect" is only an excuse. For most of us when we go into the voting booth nobody stands there and tells us who to vote for. WE have allowed the "they" to be who or what they are. We do have the power to elect responsible, honest people, but we have become very lazy and do little more than listen to the 15 second sound bites to give us all of our information. Do that and we give our power away. Take the initiative to look deeping into the issues and candidates and then make decision and we maintain our authority in this republic. Joe Roberts

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management and crew

under, for one? according to NPR, the Alaska governor was on the radio today, and basically the state is SCREWED.. seems the tax/royality on that oil was 2/3rds of the states income.. and they are going to start laying off a LOT of state employees..

--Shiva--

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I cannot fathom the fact that they had absolutely no backup facility(s).

JT

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Grumpy AuContraire

So there is no problem and they are not shutting down the pipe at least for awhile? Damn them newspeople.

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Alex Magdaleno

Like I said, it's the result of " getting goverment off the back of business".

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Alex Magdaleno

Yes, there is a problem. Never disputed that at all. But this one is not new, but it is now the news item of choice. The timing of it is what makes me suspicious, not the problem itself. My soft headed point was that there is not a damned thing 'you' can do about corrosion in a pipe in Alaska. Getting all frazzled about it will not stop the corrosion. Neither can a 2 star government panel or commission. While not 'hiding my head in the sand' as Pat admonished, I won't weld without a helmet either. Jeff

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Jeff Rice

But what is new is the shutdown of the pipeline. There is no plot here by the news organinzations. And yes there is nothing "I" or "we" can do about it now but there sure as hell is a lot the goverment could do to prevent this in the future. To trust big business ( or big unions for that matter) to look out for the rest of us out of the goodness of their hearts is pure foolishness. Greed is part of human behavior and always has been. The fox should not guard the henhouse.

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Alex Magdaleno

(The pipeline has been shut down more than a few times in the past...Just not a long term shutdown) Yessir. Total agreement there (about trust in big business, or unions, or government). I think that deregulation may be good for prices at the consumer level, but deregulation to the point of no regulation brings out the ugly side of capitalism. Now inflation jumps back to the top of the list as the real cost of money worldwide gets shifted around... If you could have cheap bread, with none on the shelf, or a ton of bread that no one can afford... Heck of a juggling act. Jeff

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