...ok I can accept that. =-) The DIFFERENCE, Timmy, between the acvw engine and the hardley ableson slug is simple. Engineering. The hardley is stuck with 45 degree's because trhats what people think of when they they think of hardly ablesons. 45 degree's is far from optimum. If the7y were allowed to shift to 30 or 60 degree's they would have an engine that would be capable of producing far better power... I don;'t uhave to like "every" antiquated design that is still being produced, simply because it is antiquated. =-)) If I want a bike thta will shake the shiot out of me, I'll get another H2..If.
..Gareth.