P6 value?

I've just referred to a randomly selected Triumph parts list (Triumph 2000 Mk1), this uses the same convention of a A-post, B/C-post and D-post. Ordering a C-post it seems would get the wrong part delivered to most people here, Cheers, Bill.

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In news:446437da$0$11186$ snipped-for-privacy@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, :::Jerry:::: waffled on in a semi-interesting fashion, it went something like this;

I have to ask, are you *always* this much of a wanker?

So far in this thread you've called me an apprentice grease monkey, attempted to tell me that I'm ill-informed about body repairs and argued the toss about whether a B pillar is a BC pillar.

My post about the fact that I used to own a body repair centre was there partly to let you know that I do know what I'm on about and that outside of the Rover workshop manual I've very rarely heard a B pillar called a BC pillar, and that I've never heard of an E pillar in my life - even after years of fitting the bloody things. They're not even called BC pillars by the stretch limousine builders, and their B posts are around 10 ft long on average...

I suspect your entire knowledge of cars comes from "Practical Classics" and the odd Haynes BoL.

I bet you call Mk5 Cortinas the Cortina '80 as well don't you? After all, that's what it was called by Ford when it was new so you *must* be right.

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Pete M

In news:x4X8g.68031$ snipped-for-privacy@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk, Jim Warren waffled on in a semi-interesting fashion, it went something like this;

Fiat Cinquecento.. they've got the handbrake from hell.

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Pete M

Pete M ( snipped-for-privacy@bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

CX or disk-brake 2cvs...

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Adrian

But you've not told us what job you do in body repair. For all we know, you could be the muppet who books the jobs in. There's plenty of jobs in a bodyshop where you'd never lay your hands on a car.

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Conor

That's folk LORE Jerry. :-)

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

That's LOSING Jerry :-)

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

A properly set up P6 handbrake will get the same rear wheel result on a brake tester as the footbrake. It far exceeds legal requirements. I've never owned a drum braked car that matches this.

The A40, of course, has hydro/mechanical rear drums so it could be the handbrake also matches the footbrake - but I'm willing to bet not at the same percentage on the tester as the P6.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Well, the WS manual is an Austin Rover production, and Bill Davis has found the same terminology in his Triumph manual. The one Jaguar manual I have (XJ6 Series 1) makes no mention of posts at all that I can find.

So it might not be an industry standard, but it's certainly not *wrong*.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Dave Plowman (News) ( snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Try a drum brake 2cv. Set up right, it'll lock the front wheels in the dry, easily.

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Adrian

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nothing

About the only job I don't do is the painting, I leave that to the neurotic, primadona painters, I'm sure the thinners used to affect their brains! :~(

I'm also a time served mechanic, by the time you finished (the modern excuse) your C&G apprentership I had already had to forget more than you knew...

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:::Jerry::::

fashion,

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semi-interesting

The only person being a wanker (as you so nicely put it) is you!

No, all it proves (accepting your word) is that you owned a vehicle bodyshop, it proves nothing about your knowledge at all.

pillars by

HAHAHAHA

That just goes to prove how little you really know and how much I do know, the front door catch pillar is the B post and the rear door hinge pillar is the C, when they share a *pressing* they are the B-C post.

Classics" and

After all,

Stop talking about yourself.

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:::Jerry::::

manual is dated

standard.

find.

*wrong*.

If people stopped thinking in terms of pressings but in terms of what the pillar does, as "Peter M" has admitted on stretched limo's the 'C' post can be several feet from the 'B' post (or is the side panel, often made up of adapted door-skins, all part of the said 'B post'...

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:::Jerry::::

Idle curiosity, I've now found the same B/C-post definition in parts lists for the Morris Marina and Standard Herald Mk3 (Indian 4-door Herald). Other than further Triumph models which I've not bothered checking, and the pictorial only Jaguar lists, that's the same definition in everything relevant I can check. Does anyone have a parts list which contradicts this? Cheers, Bill.

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Bill Davies

:::Jerry:::: ( snipped-for-privacy@privacy.INVALID) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

And Pete's also said that the people who BUILD THE DAMN THINGS refer to the whole 10ft-worth as the B pillar, and the one behind the rear door as the C pillar...

Actually, in the case of a stretch limo, I can see that the rear door could be hung from the C pillar - because there's a body glass between them. That's what I've always understood as being the defining factor.

Hence - a Golf has a very thick C pillar, from rear door to hatch, and no D pillar, because it's not got a window, but a Vectra has a C pillar and a D pillar, because there is a window.

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Adrian

like they

post'...

refer to the

But the people who DESIGN the vehicle body shell in the first place name each *pillar* / post separately, or are you saying that a 'B' post can be 10ft frecking long, stop thinking in terms of pressing and start thinking in terms of what the pillar does. Remember that the outer panels are not always the body structure, but just the skin.

What about a Transit van with a side loading door, the one with a panel (complete w/ fuel filler) between front door and side loading door, the front door catch pillar is the B post and the forward side loading door pillar is the C post - the point is the name of the pillar is on the function and not the pressing.

Again you are thinking in terms of the pressing and on the structure of the shell, the 1/4 panel between the rear of the door and the tailgate is not one large pillar. Please feel free to respond with more earth shattering ignorance!

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:::Jerry::::

:::Jerry:::: ( snipped-for-privacy@privacy.INVALID) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Why would I take your role in life from you?

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Adrian

like they

Nah, you are far better than I, when it comes to talking out of your arse whilst showing total ignorance in public!

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:::Jerry::::

:::Jerry:::: ( snipped-for-privacy@privacy.INVALID) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Most people are.

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Adrian

In news:4464a7ea$1$15296$ snipped-for-privacy@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, :::Jerry:::: waffled on in a semi-interesting fashion, it went something like this;

They *do* share a pressing, it's just one that's cut in half and 10 ft of side panel added to the middle.

Hence *stretch*.

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Pete M

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