134a Refrigerant

TRANSLATION --> "you nailed me again nate, and i have no response".

...almost as pathetic as your lies. _almost_.

lol i showed you yet another lie and instead of directly responding you just babble incoherently. its cool, nobody here is as stupid as you are stephen, your lying has caught up with you and you just cant lie yourself out of a corner.

obviously youre to stupid to know that you cant survive long at -30 degrees which i clearly listed to you initially.

nope! that was my original statement to jeff. you jumped in so i gave you the criteria, specifically for everyone to see:

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and then you LIED yet again claiming that i was now trying to slip in conditions. you are a liar, and a pathetic one at that.

tell me something i dont know. your panic spins and lies tell your story clearly for all to see.

lol....its all the boy knows.

But how do you "suck make it up"? __ Steve .

Is a compound a mixture? I don't think so... __ Steve .

No, you didn't show a lie. I claimed popular use. Squirm, it's a good look for you.

Listen carefully... "otherwise there would be no reason not to replace the HMC"... notice the mistake? You probably meant "no reason to replace the HMC"... but you made a mistake! English not your forte'? =20

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No, I don't accept that... the initial condition stands. That's the challenge I accepted. Looks like I fulfilled it pretty well, since you're squirming like two rats in a wool sock. You didn't really even modify the conditions... you just defined what a 'pinch' might be.

Well, aren't you? You can accuse me of lying all day, but you *did* try to slip in more conditions, we can

During your babbling, you forgot to address the biggie:

you:

me: You don't have a clue about your limitations... imagine you, an HVAC tech, making pronouncements about atmospheric science! That shows *extreme* hubris... you deserve what you get.

Please choke on that one some more for us... it's fun to watch! And it really does bring us full circle...=20 __ Steve .

Well, do you? __ Steve .

You don't remember this?

One of your real gems!

Why? __ Steve .

Ya know...... I have a vague recollection that this thread started with an inquiry into the availability of R134a refrigerant.

For what it is worth they had a couple dozen cases stacked on the floor in the back isle of the GROCERY store this evening with a hand lettered sign stating the price of $7.99.

I suspect this means there is no shortage of R134a.

Yeah... I hear a lot of 'liar!' from both of you... but I'm not through mopping up the floor with y'all yet. __ Steve .

youre still just a liar.

TRANSLATION --> "i tried to spin truth" :-)

you lied, you are a liar.

lol you see you think this because your stupid, ignorant, and lying ass doesnt understand why an HMC is needed to begin with.

No, I don't accept that... the initial condition stands.

my initial condition to you was -30 degrees as i have posted many times now. youre a liar stephen, no matter how hard you try to spin your bullshit ive clearly shown your lies for what they are.

lol as if i need your permission to point out your lies, liar.

lol what we have all seen is my inital post to you which CLEARLY stated -30 degrees. lie liar, it just wont get you anywhere. :-)

its simple. youre a liar. :-)

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BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links of engineering and service firms, industrial design houses, government publications, and original equipment manufacturers which all use the term generically. It is funny how the "Industry" roughly divides refrigeration systems into "Ammonia and Freon Based Systems".

your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry terminology better than you and your little google. :-)

the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the refrigerant upwards through the returns.

certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.