134a Refrigerant

Jun 04, 2005 818 Replies

Or... you could be a damn fool! =20

Grammer is how we communicate... if you can't=20 create a proper English sentence, then how do you expect to be able to make sense to someone? Your uncomprehending use of the double-negative precludes understanding what you're trying to say... indeed, it implies just the opposite. If you tell your helper "don't not open that valve!", and he opens it... who's at fault?

Spinning.... spinning. How your head does spin! =20

You forgot "TRANSLATION"... although you have discovered another goofy smiley to use. It still doesn't help you change the original=20 specifications of the challenge... which I met quite adequately. I said just bypass the head pressure control, as long as ambient wasn't low... you try to weasel in a condition where the ambient is low... but you didn't make the condition, you merely suggested it as an elaboration of being 'in a pinch'. You are a welch.

Here's a lie for you... someone once suggested to me that he'd change his views on ozone depletion when presented with convincing evidence of the cause-and-effect due to CFC usage... after presenting reams of high-quality evidence, the person did not change their views... indeed, he proceeded to pontificate his own version of atmospheric science garnered from a leak detector user manual. I'd call such a person a damn liar, wouldn't you?

And lest we forget, the millstone around your neck:

you:

me: You don't have a clue about your limitations... imagine you, an HVAC tech, making pronouncements about atmospheric science! That shows *extreme* hubris... you deserve what you get.

You deserve what you get... remember that. __ Steve .

I'd pretty much have to say that you have stupid, too. __ Steve .

Now he's not smiling... I'm getting somewhere! Now that I've wiped that goofy grin off your face... answer this one:

you:

me: You don't have a clue about your limitations... imagine you, an HVAC tech, making pronouncements about atmospheric science! That shows *extreme* hubris... you deserve what you get.

You deserve what you get... remember that. __ Steve .

Hey, don't be calling my man Nathan a liar! That's *my* job...

At least you're not a liar, Bill... 'fool' is not nearly as bad. __ Steve . =20

desperation!

Grammer is how we communicate...

Might want to spell it correctly to help get your point across.

Chris

I have repeatedly demonstrated generic usage both within the HVAC industry and outside it. You seem to be the *only* one insisting on a strict interpretation.

When I was in Thailand on an install I had the opportunity during some slack time to visit some of the local ruins. My local contact said he would get a "jeep" that we could take into the back country. I was quite surprised when he rolled up in an old Landrover 88. Now, if I had had my pee-pee whacked as badly by D.C. as you have had, I probably would have taken umbrage at his characterization of an obvious knock-off as a "jeep". Instead, I realized that the larger world can see things quit differently than self proclaimed "insiders". It is not a matter of right or wrong, simply the ability to observe reality, and that reality is that in many parts of the world, a jeep is any four wheel drive utility vehicle. BTW, one school of thought is that the term jeep was coined as an alliteration of the Ford GPW designation. It was then applied generically to any of the three Bantam derived 1/4 ton recon vehicles produced for the war. It is odd that a slang term applied generically could, after the fact, be copyrighted and used as a trade name, but stranger things have happened.

Oh, went to pool-boy school too! I guess that really qualifies you to talk about atmospheric science.

Another classic Nateism: "Chlorine dissolves in sunlight"

Ok pool-boy, answer this: Why to you have to continuously add a PH up buffer to a pool that is chlorinated with gaseous chlorine?

Answer: Chlorine added to pool: Cl2+H2O-> HCl+HOCl | Sunlight+4(HOCl)-> 2(H20)+O2+Cl2 The some portion of the Chlorine gas evolved from the breakdown of hypochlorus acid dissipates in the atmosphere. This leaves behind hydrochloric acid which must be buffered. as an aside, notice that the chlorine being blown away in spite of the fact that it is 2.5 times denser than air and should "fall because it is heavier".

it doesnt continually move enough air to lift heavier gases above lighter ones. to a degree, yes....but it settles before reaching the ozone layer.

TRANSLATION --> "im a little girly bitch" :-)

TRANSLATION --> "my argument is losing so ill attack grammar"

:-) doesnt work bottom-boy, spin away from your losing all you want, we wont be diverted.

i know thats what youre trying to do but i wont let you. :-) my post to YOU clearly stated -30 degrees. :-)

LIAR! i CLEARLY stated -30 degrees to YOU well before you even knew what an HMC was.

this is a given with each statement you make.

that you are! you went from misinformed to ignorant to a lying bastard with no credibility at all. :-)

bullshit! you listed some websites which proves NOTHING. no matter what you try to claim, "freon" is a trademark of dupont and nothing more.

being as im the "*only*" one with actual first hand experience with refrigeration/refrigerants id say that puts me in a pretty good position. :-)

that doesnt make it right or proper. im glad to see that you claim any four wheel drive is a "jeep". it just goes to show how full of s*it the rest of your argument is.

yup....so that employees under me and work under my CPO enabling me to take on total contracts instead of just hvac. :-)

or your little google qualifies you as a refrigeration expert. :-)

not what i said asshole, but i understand fully why you must make things up as you go along.

lol....priceless.

hey stephen, if you _are_ so desperate as to whine about grammar, at least spell grammar right. it is afterall, how we communicate. lol

HL&S , but don't you think it's more than just a little bit dishonest to snip what I wrote and then claim I said something completely different?

What I wrote shows my opinion that a Jeep is any of a family of 1/4 ton utility vehicles manufactured by Bantam, Ford, and Willys under military contract, and all subsequent vehicles of a similar visual design manufactured by Willys, Kaiser, AMD, Mitsubishi, and Chrysler, followed by DC. I also can acknowledge in other areas of the world that jeep is used somewhat less specifically with no major heartburn. Really, what good does it do to jump up and down screeching "your the wrong", when it will not change their usage? Is is what *is*, not what should be.

Hey Poolboi, don't you remember writing:

Perhaps you have short term memory problems that go with your reading comprehension problems.

YOU stated that in many parts of the world any 4x4 is referenced as a jeep. you went on to DEFEND IT by claiming its usage was reasonable (paraphrasing).

"reality is that in many parts of the world, a jeep is any four wheel drive utility vehicle." YOUR words.

jeff i dont care whats done anywhere in the world it doesnt change the bottom line. no matter how many ignorant people say it, a land rover is NOT a jeep. by the same token, no matter how many ignorant people use "freon" to describe refrigerant it just does not make it so. you can continue to argue your ignorance all you want, you cannot change the bottom line and the harder you argue your ignorance the more you take away from your valid points.

fine and well, i stand corrected (

You forgot about:

you:

me: You don't have a clue about your limitations... imagine you, an HVAC tech, making pronouncements about atmospheric science! That shows *extreme* hubris... you deserve what you get.

You deserve what you get... remember that. __ Steve .

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