134a Refrigerant

Jun 04, 2005 818 Replies

Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I Can't Hear you.......

The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in "Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry" would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane. Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when the authority is yourself.

Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)

Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again? What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your argument both ways.

-- jeff

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Tell us what happens when you don't stop mixing! __ Steve .

multiplied,

???!!! Another gem! Why not square-rooted?

Bill... how old is the Earth? __ Steve .

Of course I am... otherwise, you'd be a damn fool, and you can't be a damn fool, we know that! Right?

You still don't see your grammatical error! What a dumbass!

Let's try baby talk...=20

must be low temp, otherwise, there would be no reason

*not* (this not doesn't belong) to replace the HMC.

If you let the two 'nots' cancel, you get:

must be low temp, otherwise, there would be a reason to replace the HMC.

So if it's *high* ambient, there is a reason to replace the HMC?

Jeez, dude... learn English.

Look, everybody! Nathan is a welch!

Plain as the nose on my face:

No ambient specification. You, sir, are a charlatan. =20

Ok, Mr. Welch... here's your post to me:

The 'such as' condition is by no means limiting... it is an example, that's why the 'such as' term was used. Note that this post was not the original challenge, only a response to an elaboration request. I do *not* recognize it as being the defining post of the challenge.

Go ahead, spin some more. Call me a liar, too... that's funny. Make goofy smileys while you're at it... and why stop with the 'TRANSLATION'?

Just don't forget this one... it'll follow you to your grave:

you:

me: You don't have a clue about your limitations... imagine you, an HVAC tech, making pronouncements about atmospheric science! That shows *extreme* hubris... you deserve what you get.

You deserve what you get... remember that. __ Steve .

But the point is... you type in gibberish! __ Steve .

What? No smileys? No 'TRANSLATION'?

You're no fun anymore... __ Steve .

i know why you cling to this belief but the wind doesnt constantly blow.

heh...as if we didnt already know that.

lol....crying about grammar is yet another sign of your pitiful desperation!

that wasnt my post to you.....that was my post to jeff. my post to YOU clearly stated -30 degrees.

lol you can squirm like a little weasel all day long and it wont change a thing! i clearly listed -30 degrees and you later accused me of trying to change criteria and slip one in. i have exposed your lies yet again, and its fun to watch you try to squirm. :-D

liar.

no need, theres nothing funny in that statement. you are a liar.

Yikes! Remind me to stay away from those pools ...

/Peter

its really not uncommon in large pools because its more economical. the downside is that if a leak were to develop in the pump room somebody would probably die before it was discovered.

POT, KETTLE, BLACK! no matter how loud you cry about it, "freon" is a trademark and NOTHING more! people call all sorts of 4x4's "jeeps" but that does not make them jeeps. or are you suggesting that a land rover or a samauri are indeed "jeeps" just because its commonly used in a generic manner? ANSWER DIRECTLY PLEASE.

wrong. FIRST your own link says "[trade name]" which defines what freon is. from there it explains it farther. bottom line, "freon" is indeed a trademark and NOTHING MORE regardless of its common usage by those ignorant to the industry. that you would continue to argue that shows just how assinine and ignorant you really are.

is pure chlorine and it dissolves in sunlight which is why it must be continually fed into pools.

wanna see my CPO card too? :-)

Chlorinated water I understand, but "pure chlorine gas" sounds mighty dangerous to me.

/Peter

I know why you cling to this belief but the atmosphere is never still. __ Steve .

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Stop it... I'm gonna hurl... *again*!

Take a tablespoon of salt... put it in the sun. Tell us when it degrades. No fair letting it get wet... even though that wouldn't degrade it.

In fact, you'd have a hard time making chlorine do anything but be chlorine. Go ahead and try....=20

Of course, the point is, chlorine can't get to the stratosphere without being bound up into a gaseous molecule that is extremely strong... otherwise, rain would precipitate it out. That's the entire problem... chlorinated fluorocarbons are highly insoluble in water, and stay bound up until they get to the upper atmosphere where UV light can attack them. __ Steve .

Here's one you should like... volume =3D square root.

That's not what your Bible tells you! __ Steve .

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