Superwinch = junk

no, the lockers make it to heavy. ;-)

A 2700 lb winch isn't going to do it. You need an 8000 lb winch MINIMUM.

Super winch isn't junk, although I prefer Warn.

Idiot.

Well, while that may be fairly accurate, it's not very helpful...

Heck, it's four-wheel-drive! It shouldn't *get* stuck! Let's complain to the dealer! ;-)

Can't beleive know one has used the analogy of getting your boot stuck in the mud when you were a kid, your leg is quite capable of lift up a boot, but add in the suction, (vacum) of the sticky semi liquid and off comes your boot. Don't know what the force required would be for that boot, but I would imagine it would be 5 - 10 times the regular lift. And do pay attention to the drop in winch abbilty with every wrap of line, ( jeep 101)

I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

Joshua, I've been observing this for a while and people became hostile only after you refused to believe what people were trying to tell you about why your undersized winch didn't work when you complained about it.

Jerry

Josh, A snatch block works on the same principle as any pulley system such as an old fashioned chain-fall engine hoist. By running the cable through the pulley and then hooking it to your frame the load cuts in half. This is because now the frame is handling half the weight and the winch is pulling the other half. The negative is that now you have to pull twice as much cable to move the same distance.

A$$hole. Hey jeeaholic, he's new to the sport, cut him some slack. His mistake isn't so ridicules (Thinking a 4500 lb winch should be fine for his 3000lb Jeep). He's paid a pretty high price for this mistake and he's unhappy, you wouldn't be? It's jerks like you who give these forums the reputation they have.

ROFLMAO

Hey, *most* of the answers you got were helpful and civil. No one treated you like a moron until you started acting like one. You attacked a manufacturer (ref. the subject of this thread) and a supplier (quadratec) immediately. You were informed that you had made a mistake and the manufacturer and supplier were not at fault. When you refused to accept that a 4500lb. winch can't pull a 3500 lb. jeep out of axle deep mud, that's when people began to get annoyed with you. Don't jump all over people for telling you the truth. If you would like more information on proper sizing use of a winch, just ask. There are many qualified people here who can help you. You may still get some wise ass answers, but it's pretty easy to separate the helpful ones and ignore the snippy ones.

"For more information on the Ramsey Winch Accessory Kit, click the picture of the kit above. "

What picture? There's no picture there, Nate. :-)

? click refresh, must not have loaded for you for some reason.

When you are stuck, you can easily DOUBLE the weight of your vehicle. The curb weight, stock, is close to 3500 pounds. You need at least a 7000 pound capacity for your winch, MINIMUM. They don't make a winch this size, and the nearest is 8000 pounds, and 9000 pounds is even better.

We know this because we frequently have to anchor a Jeep with a winch with another Jeep in order to recover a Jeep that is stuck. A stuck vehicle can easily pull the winch equipped vehicle when the winch is reeling in the cable. This happens all the time, maybe not every time, but frequently enough that we know that we need two vehicles to recover one.

You bought the wrong winch. Period. End of story.

A snatch block is nothing more than a pulley with a tree bark-friendly strap on it. The winch cable goes from the vehicle to the pulley and back to the vehicle. You could put a block on the vehilce as well, and run the winch cable through that pulley and anchor it back on the tree. The more pullies you introduce to the system, the less pulling force is needed to move the load, but the slower the load will move when the force is applied. Of course, the anchor point must be strong enough to hold the load because even though we might only need 500 pounds of pulling force to pull 3000 pounds, the anchor still has to be able to support those 3000 pounds.

If you have a sturdy tree in your yard, you can try using some pullies and rope to lift a few cinder blocks. You will notice that with a single pulley, you lift the full weight of the blocks. This is the same as connecting your winch directly to a tree. If you tie the rope to the pulley, route it through a pulley on the cinder blocks, through the pulley on the tree, then pull on the rope, the load is easier to lift, but it lifts slower. As you add more and more pullies, it becomes easier and easier to lift the load, but the load move less and less with each pull. There is a way to calculate the force needed and the distance the load will move, but I don't think you are really interested in this level of detail, and I don't know the calculation, but I could probably figure it out. The fact that I can find that the load becomes easier to move is all I really need to know.

Shackles are merely temporary anchor points that you can affix to stuff. Maybe you need to put a shackle on a tree, or chain it to a rock, or mount it on the vehicle itself.

What you need to know is something I posted earlier. You need a winch capacity that is a minimum of double the weight of your Jeep. Everybody that has a winch on thier Jeep has one that is a minimum of 8000 pound capacity. There is a pretty even distribution of 8000 and 9000 pound winches, a few

"pithy"? Yeth!