Wildly OT - dog migration

Parachute them into the middle of the outback, who would ever notice :)

Stick them in the back of an Ambulance and just scream throught the border crossing...

This is a little extreme! Is your welding really that bad ? ;-)

Deporting Criminals there didn't cause a stir so dogs shouldn't be a problem :-P

Lee D

I've actually found a website this evening. Apparently it's a 30 day quarantine job. Approximate cost £2000. Per bloody dog!

It would be a lot cheaper if I had them stuffed first...

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i

Tim Hobbs wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I've shipped my own dogs (working pointers) to most countries and Australia is no more difficult than most if exporting from the UK. They used to insist on double wire mesh on the travelling crate but that was about all so far as I recall and I don't think they require that any more. The crate probably has to be sealed at Heathrow but that is no big deal either. I doubt whether the 30 day quaratine amounts to much -- it can probably be done within a domestic household.

I suggest you contact your local Animal Health Department which will be listed in the telephone book under DEFRA. Ask them to fax you a copy of the requirements for importing a dog into Australia. (They will fax or send it to you but won't tell you over the phone). Or you could go to their site. Also, BA Cargo used to have a helpful site. As dogs go by the volume of the box (not weight), I always make mine to measure.

Email me privately if I can help further. Over the past 30 years or so I have exported my dogs to over 26 countries. The airlines will encourage you to use an agent. I did once, then discovered I could do it all myself without the additional expense. Costs vary widely but it has never cost me anything like £2,000 to ship a dog in my life!

Derry snipped-for-privacy@adviegundogs.co.uk

Derry,

That's brilliant, thanks a lot for the advice. The £2K from an Aussie government site and included transport and boarding, plus basic veterinary inspections. That's more than it's costing for three of us to go on holiday in February!

Cheers

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i

I'm pretty sure that you can serve part or all of the quarantine period in the UK under special conditions. You will have to investigate this a little further (try Australia House in London) but I can tell you for sure that overseas horses racing in the Melbourne Cup (it's today by chance) do not come here and have to spend 30 days in quarantine. Are you bringing the cars as well ? if so, have them extra thoroughly steam cleaned in every nook and cranny or you'lse end up running into strife - mate.

Steve W

Hello Tim, not sure what site you have found. Was it this?

They (government organisations) tend to make it expensive to make it unattractive, I did look at trying to take our two dogs to the UK and back but it was looking too hard last time I tried.

From my limited experience with importing things from the UK my advice would be to get a good agent at least for the first time you trying it.

It you want a dog why you are here I can loan you a Weimaraner and a GSP, return optional.

Tim

Hello Tim, did you also see

Of course there are the health regs for the UK and the actual transport out and back on top of this.

Tim

Yes, I was looking at that site. Of course I am now completely unable to find the reference to A$5000 that I originally saw! I like your numbers much better though...

It's still just a wild thought, but this was an obvious obstacle which now seems a lot less daunting. I had assumed it would be much more difficult.

Cheers

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i

(snip) Horses are not potential carriers of rabies, which is why dogs (and cats) are very strictly controlled compared to horses. Now, if you are thinking of bringing in your pet cow - forget it. You can't even bring it in dead. Conditions vary according to the species of animal involved.

(snip)

JD

Tim Hobbs wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Tim,

My experiences are a few years out of date so do check!

Also, email me privately about the crate. Seeing as wot you are a fellow Land Rover enthusiast I might be able to tell you something to your advantage!

Derry

I don't know if youve looked at this Tim?, if not then there must be someone else here who has done it.

What does it cost to transport a car to Australia?, or even something like a 101? I assume it can't be that expensive, as I've read of plenty of people transporting cars overseas as part of an expedition.

(and which side of the road do the Aussies drive on? The same one as the UK?, or the wrong one? :-) )

If either one is a Golden Retriever, I'll put in a bid right now. (Would go particularly well with the RaRo, if I get it back) D

And the buggers keep coming back?

well that would save a bit in air fare I'd just send her to Skegness with the kids

Andy

G'day Blue.......

As long as the dogs are "Chipped" it's no problem getting them out of this country and into most countries. The problem is getting them back as thjey will have to spend up to six months in quarentine on their return. Also find out what jabs are needed from your vet

Nope, all black I'm afraid. One is (we think) a lab-doberman, one a fairly straight collie and the other a small collie / lab bitch.

The lab-doberman was our first and still our favourite - top dog in the pack. He's the only one who's ever had the balls to bite me, although we've addressed that situation now (both literally and figuratively)!

This is all very 'what if' just now - there are no immediate plans to up sticks and leave, but if I'm ever going to do it it will have to be in the next few years, because once my parents are past looking after my brother I'll have to head back anyway.

The dogs were the one major obstacle that I couldn't readily find a solution to.

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i

Driving in Australia is great. Their cars are about the size of a UK starter home, the seats about the size of a DFS sofa and the roads just go on and on and on. It really is true about driving for hours without seeing someone. And they drive on the left, which is fairly handy.

True story - me and Dad were driving along one day in fairly remote country and stopped to take some photographs. A farm ute came past (the first vehicle we had seen that day) and the guy stopped. He didn't want anything, just to say 'hello' and how were we doing?

Transport is not that expensive by surface, it just takes a few weeks to arrive. When Dad left Malaysia he measured the new house and had all the furniture made in KL by a craftsman in mahogany. At Malay labour rates it was less than half the price of buying MFI crap in Australia, even taking the shipping into account.

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i

Really?