Petty police

Learn how to use the English language will you ?

Graham

This is gettin ridiculous.

You Must (have to, no choice) use headlights at night. What are headlights? Are they headlights? Are they dipped headlights? Or is it main beam?

You must use red. Only one of these is red, all the rest are different colours. Which one of them is red, you have to have the red ones on, you have no choice.

You must have the red ones on (have to, no choice) "except" on a road which has lit street lighting. This is the same as sayin you must drive the correct way up the motorway, except when the police have closed it off and have diverted you to drive the wrong way up the motorway.

So... you must use your red ones, except...

Which are the red ones? You must drive with headlights on? You must drive with dipped headlights on? Or you must drive with mainbeam on?

Must drive with mainbeam on except...

We just need to know what the red ones are, as we know there are other colours as they are mentioned on the page.

Gonz ("Gonz" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Yep. You're right, it is.

Three people have said that you're wrong. Three literate, intelligent regular posters.

Nobody, not even a semi-literate sock or troll, has supported your interpretation.

Yet STILL you refuse to accept that you've misread it.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Headlights means main or dip.

What the f*ck are you wittering on about?

Eeyore, if you just want friends again, do it the normal way and go out and make some. This is not the way to do it.

THE RED ONES!

Gonz ("Gonz" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Quite. I think you've had enough of the red ones for the moment, don't you?

It is. You're clearly struggling with the language here.

Now, you know that the HC isn't a legal document in itself. Things like MUST actually refer to laws - and it even tells you which one. So if you want the full legal definition of what you can and can't do, you'll have to go and read the relevant acts. And you'll have to do so understanding the language the courts will use interpreting these acts - not your misunderstanding of them.

However, to save time, here are the relevant answers :

At night (sunset + 30 mins to sunrise - 30 mins), anywhere where there's no street lighting, you must use your headlights. Dipped at a minimum, full beam if you want to and there's nobody who'd be affected by it.

If visibility is seriously reduced, you must also use your headlights.

Also, between sunset and sunrise, your sidelights and rear number plate lights must be lit.

This tells you that if there is street lighting, you're allowed to drive with just sidelights/rear plate lights at night.

clive

We haven't asserted what the red ones are, yet.

So it's not a you must, except, then? Just an, if you want to?

Thanks... If I were to turn my red ones on, which ones wud they be, do you know?

Either. Read the start of the Highway Code. There's things you must, do, things you must not & everything else.

No.

No.

They're dipped headlights. You need to astart at the beginning of the section.

Gonz ("Gonz" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Yes, it is.

You must, except where you don't HAVE to, but can if you wish.

Dipped headlights bein the next one up from 'side lights' and the one before 'main beam'? Normal lights, that are usually always on 'lit up' on every car on the road of a night time?

So you must have these lights on, which we have now asserted to be 'dipped' at all times in the dark, 'except' except on a road which has lit street lighting.

I have found these examples from another site...

You may not carry a passenger anywhere on your bike except on a regular seat permanently attached to the bike. You may not carry any child between the ages of 1 to 4, or weighing 40 pounds or less, anywhere on a single-passenger bike except in a baby seat attached to the bike.

Now, you must have your 'dipped headlights' on a road which has lit street lighting. Goin by the previous examples, this is not a matter of choice, so we have to turn our 'dipped headlights' off. It's the use of the word 'except' that tells us this.

Glad I've sorted this out now.

Gonz ("Gonz" ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

OK, thanks for that - I now understand the level you're coming from. Why didn't you say?

Where are you gettin the 'you don't have to' and 'but can if you wish' from FFS?!

Where is the you don't have to but can if you wish, fit into these?

You must not carry any additional passenger in the vehicle except with the hirer?s permission.

Any animal should be kept under the hirer?s control, and should be carried in the rear of the vehicle (except dogs described above.

Keep left except when overtaking.

You may not carry a passenger anywhere on your bike except on a regular seat permanently attached to the bike,

You may not carry any child between the ages of 1 to 4, or weighing 40 pounds or less, anywhere on a single-passenger bike except in a baby seat attached to the bike.

How many millions of drivers are there that are as confused as you, and breakin the law?

Look up. /me waves down to stewpid

That's the ones.

Like it says.

No it's the words may & must that make the difference. You don't have to carry a passenger at all. You must except doesn't mean you must not.

Now we've both agreed on that part...

We have to turn them off, and just use side lights now.

It had this part in, on the top of those statements... "Your responsibilities: you MAY NOT do these things" They are actually sayin 'you MUST not do these things.

No. They're Headlights. They might be either dipped or main beam, but they must be on (except on lit streets where sidelights will meeet the requirements of the law).

Graham