Hot direct to the starter?

Yes Master. Sorry Master. I will remember it now, Master.

Jan :)

My point exactly ;)

Jan

The what?

ROFL

No I did not, I just tried to stay away from it..

Jan

I don't know man.

IF I choose to stay in the CAR hobby in general, I will most likely stick with ac volkswagens.

But I don't know. I need a break.

Jan

ON YA KNEES, BOY!

Wait, no, that's from somewhere else... ;)

Jan

...............Intermittant? My wife says that I haven't been firing on all four cylinders for several years now. I can't drag my a$$ out of the driveway in the morning without at least two cups of high octane java in my tank. When I was hiking up to the summit of Whiteface Mountain, last month, I actually started over-heating and had to let everyone else go ahead while I cooled down for a few minutes. Later on that night, I actually needed about eight or nine Coronas to get my motor running smoothly again.

On 15 Aug 2004 01:05:32 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Kafertoys) scribbled this interesting note:

Not necessary at all. I've never had any issue what-so-ever with our six volt car...after I fixed the wiring problems that would have been disguised by converting it to twelve volt...

-- John Willis (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Amen :)

Jan

.............I understand what you guys are saying about not using a 12 volt conversion to cover-up wiring problems and I even agree with the idea of keeping the 6-volt system in the name of originality with an antique car. However, lets not get too crazy about how wonderful it is to have a car with a 6-volt system. I'm old enough to remember what it was like when there were still a lot of cars on the road with 6-volt systems. Moisture, winter temperatures in the morning, a hot & hard cranking engine, electrical problems are all big issues with 6-volt systems. Much much more so than with

If you ever cursed and yanked an old ford starter relay off a beetle you would understand that this has been a problem for a long time. I drive my aircooled as daily drivers and the little minor hassels like not starting everytime might not bother someone that uses theres as weekend toys but I'm not for climbing under my car to jump the starter.( it seemed to always happen when I'm dressed nice)

like Jan I believe the simpler it is the better and if I could find nothing but equal quality repacement parts that would be great.

I havehad the hard start relay on my daily driver for a few years and it has worked fine even if it does bother me knowing it wasn't stock, but it works and so I'll use them untill I find a better way. the aftermarket ignition swith screwed up after a few weeks.

I would not try driving my 64 with 56to61 tail lights with dim 6 volt balds in my area.

Mario

And why not? :) On one of my vehicles I have a separate circuit for the coil and fuel pump. The switch is a down-stroke paddle just to the left of the steering wheel. It came in handy when I had that oil-fire on the highway.

One more thing, Jan! Now think about it - why not revert to the good old hand-crank start? What could be more fundamental and true? A kickstart. Yeah, that's what I want. A kickstart. And a magneto. And gravity-fed fuel delivery. That's the ticket.

You forget something Jan, the "hard start" relay is actually an improvement of the original design, the relay was/is left out for cost reasons only!!!

J.

You could even get the 6V VW's factory fitted with an 8V package, wonder why.....

J.

I drove like that for a year. Great ice breaker with the older people. Never could leave my parking spot in the city without some old fart coming up to talk.

I am mainly after originality in certain parts, or entities in the beetle... it works the best when it is unaltered. No "fixes", no "upgrades".

This does not apply to everything, but in many areas of the beetle it does. There are thousands of "improvements" available in the market... only a handful of them are actually beneficial to the car.

Jan

What does it improve when the car starts FINE, both with and without it? I can't see the "improvement" part in it. To me, 30+ years of flawless service is PHENOMENALLY good for any starter circuit. Improve it? It works, there's nothing to improve when the "output" is either a 0 or a 1 ... it either works, or doesnt.

If it doesn't, it's broken. Fix it.

If you have corroded terminals at the starter small connector, you could just as well have corroded terminals at the hard start relay connectors. They usually are located right there next to the starter, open to the elements just the same.

I better shut up about this for now, I'm not budging and Iäve said all there is to say about this... that I deem worth saying.

Jan

Like my BMW 325 seats on stock tracks.

LOL

the back seat. I replaced the ignition

associated with the ignition switch, headlight, and

push button thingy since. If VW had soldered

having these conversations. We'd probably still

If they HAD soldered all of the crimp on contacts NONE of us would have an original harness today! Wonder why harnesses for planes and space crafts are not soldered? The wires would brake, and the flux used is corrosive over time.(The key word here is time!)

J.