Really. You are indeed the consummate asshole. Only an asshole like you would pay $20,000 for a vehicle and then another $25,000 to maintain it. I think your own statements prove you are a dickless Troll.
Approximately 11/30/03 12:00, DTJ uttered for posterity:
Umm, not to question your credibility and record keeping here, but that would be roughly equivalent to something like a full engine rebuild roughly every two years. Unless you have the unfortunate habit of buying such classics as the 8-4-2 Cadillac or worse the diesel Oldsmobile, you must have the luck level of Joe Bfstplk.
How about some backup to this statistic? It sound like BS to me.
I have not spend $5000 on mechanical repairs on all the Fords I have owned in my life (34 years of driving, 13 Fords). At least 3 of those exceeded 140,000 miles while I owned them and only five had less than
90,000. In addition, in the last 34 years, the rest of may family has owned 15 Fords, and all of them plus all of mine added together have not required $5000 worth of repairs in total. In terms of money spent on repairs, the worst tree cars I owned were all Japanes - Toyota Cressida, Datsun 280Z, Mazada 626 in that order. The worst American car I owned was a Plymouth Reliant, but all the problems I had (and there were many) were handled by the warranty (they never had to fix the same problem twice). In terms of out of warranty repiar costs, paid by me, the following list is from worst to best repair costs are estimates and are from memory and probably not particualrly accurate):Car (new/used, approximate reapir expenses, mileage when disposed) '83 Toyota Cressida (new, $3000, 80k miles) - sold '75 Datsun 280 Z (new, $1500, 50k miles) - sold to friend '83 Mazda 626 (new, $1100, 60k miles) - sold to Sister '92 F150 (new, $1000, 92k miles) - currently own '75 Jensen Healey (used, $900, parts, 20k miles) - sold '74 Jensen Healey (used, $800, parts, 15k miles) - sold '97 Ford Expedition (new, $600, 150k miles) - traded on 2003 Expedition '81 Audi Coupe (new, $500, 50k miles) - traded on Mada 626 '86 Mercury Sable (new, $400, 140k miles) - sold to friend '78 Ford Fiesta (used, $300, 140k miles) - sold '72 Ford Pinto (new, $200, 100K miles) - sold '86 Ford Ranger (used, $100, 90k miles) - wrecked/sold '01 Ford Mustang (new, $70, 37k miles) - traded on Vue '78 Ford Couirer (used, $0, 90k miles) - sold '89 Ford Taurus (new, $0, 30k miles) - ex got in divorce '78 Ford Fairmont (new, $0, 36k miles) - sold '81 Plymouth Reliant (new, $0, 18k miles) - traded on Audi Coupe '73 Ford Pinto (used, $0, 90k miles) - sold to friend '03 Ford Expedition (new, $0, 37k miles) - currently own '03 Saturn Vue (new, $0, 6k miles) - currently own '95 Ford Explorer (new, $0, 32K miles) - traded for '97 Expedition
The lsit does not include routine maintenace and wear items (brake pads, etc.).
My Sister has owned two Hondas ('80 Accord, '97 Civic). Both have been excellent cars. However both have need some minor repairs. The current Civic has around 50k miles and so far has needed plug wires, a muffler, and couple of interior plastic parts that broke off. The paint on her bumper is flaking off and the engine consume some oil (1 quart in 1k miles or so). I replaced the plug wires and muffler, so her total repair bill to date is less than $200 (parts only). So on my list, it rates about the same as a 1972 Pinto.
Ed
I have no reason to think the exhaust was running hot. It was fuel injected car. The placement of the alternator was just plain stupid. I don't know what the fact that the car cost $20,000+ has to do with the cost of the starter or alternator. Neither contributes to the "luxury" aspects of the car. The starter and alternators on my $2000 pintos worked just as well and were far more reliable.
Ed
Next to the engine, what a silly place to put an alternator. Much like my 10 year old start that's under the exhaust manifold I guess.
Expensive parts are what make a car expensive. Get it?
Sure, why not. Of course, you could ask WHY they cost me that much, and how many I owned that did. Sort of like the asshole claiming his Toyota was the biggest piece of shit on the road, but not mentioning that he bought it from a group of 18-year olds who used it to race off road, never changed the oil, and frequently cleared all 4 wheels off the ground...
Neither. I am just playing the same word games asshole was.
Let's see - purchase car for $5000, drive it 20,000 miles, spend $1000 on repairs, sell for $1000 3 years later - total cost = $5000 for
20,000 miles.It comes down to statistics, really. Asshole buys Toyota for whatever price, with whatever miles on it, got something that wasn't taken care of. Then goes on to complain that in spite of his not maintaining it, the vehicle failed. Gee I wonder why.
Now, why have all my Honda's done so well? Simple. Bought NEW, with LESS THAN 10 miles on them. Dealer never had a chance to f*ck them up. Took care of them. Pretty simple, huh?
Oh my, you really hurt me with that one. I don't know whether it hurt worse to have you make up how much I paid for something, or to realize you have penis envy.
Notice I never mentioned the condition of the car when I bought it, much like the asshole azguy who forgot to mention that the imports he bought were all pieces of shit due to the previous owner's abuse, added to by his inability to find where to stick the dipstick. Sort of the same problem he has finding other holes.
Interesting how you compare the worst years of imports against the "best" years of domestics. Not that ford, chrysler or GM really have "best" years...
You got me there. My wife's Oddessy had 12 miles >My wife's 2003 Honda Oddyssey never burned any oil...it just left puddles of >it
On 01 Dec 2003 06:42 PM, DTJ posted the following:
He's obviously found at least one asshole.
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No, expensive cars make otherwise standard replacement parts expensive. There is no reason a replacement starter or alternator for a Cressida should cost more than a Crown starter or alternator. A friend used to work in a Chevy parts department. He claimed that if you looked up a "Corvette" part, it would cost 15 to 20% more than the exact same part for another Chevrolet.
Ed
What do you mean? I also listed domestics from the 70's, 80's, '90, '00
- you just cut off all the good cars. Are you implying that all those years were the "best" years for domestics? I am only comparing what I owned. After that Toyota, I wasn't really interested in getting screwed again. It wasn't just that the Toyota was a money pit, it was also slow, ugly, cramped, and handled like a horse cart. At least the Datsun drove nicely and looked great. The Mazda was a nice body style (5 door), got decent gas mileage, and had a nice transmisison (5 speed). The Toyta had no redeeming values except that my ex liked it (but amazingly she was more than ready to get rid of it when the transmission screwed up). Oh what a feeling.
Ed
Tell me, how many crow starter or alternators were made in Japan for enthusiast sport sedans? And what does the cost of massive American protectionist economy tarrifs on Japanese parts have to do with the price of parts for some Chevy penile enhancement on wheels?
Wow, Dude. You do have some issues, don't you?
Just about everyone outside the US has issues.
The US wants free trade and no tariffs on US goods. Yet puts up it's own import tariffs and increases subsidies.
Hypocrites.
rhys
Hey, *we* (the *majority* of Americans) didn't elect this moron!
-- C.R. Krieger (Been there; drove that)
Excuse me? A chick Jeep? Lol. Look at the Wrangler next to mine on the first pic. That's a chick Jeep.
You chose to post this to an 18 year old thread? Desperate to share pics of your Liberty, I guess. I’ve seen very capable and respectable old modified Suzuki Samurais on the trail, and they get lots of cred, fellowship, and waves from Jeepers. I’ve also seen old Ford Pintos on 40”s with a who-knows-how-many-inch lift elevating the floorboards to about 6’ above deck. It’s your ride. Do with it as you will. Just don’t put Rubicon stickers or badges on it. That might look foolish.
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