Sad happenings in Lincolnshire

Sep 16, 2007 60 Replies

I lived in Lincolnshire near Skegness from 1960 to 1984 and I have always said "If you come off the road, you have a choice - left hand ditch or right hand ditch!" There are so many of them that its inevitable you will end up in one sooner or later if you have an accident or lose control.

And losing control of a land rover 109 or 110 (ordinary or defender) is about one of the most difficult things to regain control of unless you are very experienced. I know, I have one of the defender 110's.

It appears that it's likely that it had a 2" lift as well, which is unlikely to help if it was heavily laden ;(

Statement from Gresh (The owner of the 110 being discussed) - taken from various LR boards.

"I have to thank everyone who has been by our sides through this ongoing ordeal. Thanks also to everyone who have sent messages and posted on the various forums. I do not have the strength at the moment to trawl the other forums, please spread my thanks.

All the support is truly overwelming, and we are touched.

Now, to set the story straight, and I know I don't need to with you, but I want my friends (you lot) to know the truth first hand.

I was not overtaking the transit van, my children were all strapped in securely, which ultimately made it hard to get them out and contributed to the deaths of both Keavy and Willow. Still, despite this, I firmly believe kids should be strapped in, if we hadn't hit cold water, the outcome may have been very different.

The Transit van in question did not yield, his side of the road had a three foot edge, mine had a six or seen inch edge. My rear tyre felt like it slipped off the bank, sliding me sideways. The 110 shot across the road and then rolled down the bank, submerging it a foot or two under the water. And the rest is history.

Now for the sad part, we have to face the very real prospect that the life support will be turned off on Angel and Thor later middayish. This isn't guess work, we have been taking to every surgeon in Leicester.

Your support and help is a source of strength for us, in 48hrs we have gone from a happy family of eight children, to a broke family with four children, I can not epress how we feel, and I really hope you NEVER find out.

i will endeavour to post something in the next couple of days.

i an proud to count you all as my friends.

Thank you

Nigel, Sara, Star, Liam, Amber and Ceann. "

Thats bought a tear to my eye....

and mine too - a very brave and courageous man to post his explanation so soon despite the strain he must be under - obviously the accident left us all wondering a bit and I know the land rover would have protected the kids if it hadn't been for he water and the unfortunate circumstances of the accident. .

There is some video on BBC news site of it being recovered...

So Sad.

I've suggested on MCUK if anyone who is a member of the forum the family frequent and would like to set up a just giving account to help assit the family with this awful tragedy then I would be more than willing to chip in.

I'll keep you posted if anything comes of it - I'm sure I'm not alone. It won't change the past but the cost implications alone of the funerals alone will take some meeting.

Lee D

I am only a lurker to the group - Cant afford a Landy at the moment, but I would chip in as well if I get the details. I wont be acceesing here tomorrow, but would do something Thursday.

Giles

That has to be one of the saddest, yet bravest, posts I've seen.

Thoughts go to all comcerned.

Amen

It puts my little worries in perspective.

AJH

My heart bleeds for them, I know loss, and loss for someone young, but this really is unimaginable. In our thoughts here,

StaffBull

I saw that too. Having lost children too (totally different circumstances), I can feel just a little of what they are going through. If you get that fund up Lee, count me in.

Stuart

Without the outer roof bars & roll cages, that would have been a *lot* worse i reckon, poor bastards, the lot of 'em.

The latest news this morning is that four of the seven children have died. source -

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I've not been around here for a while what with not having a land rover at the moment, not had one for a couple of years, but seeing the news story brought me back. As I see a roll was involved I'm so glad a cage was fitted to the 110, without it they have a habit of not maintaining much in the way of integrity. The seatbelts obviously made it harder to get people out but without them the injuries form the roll would have been worse, and it's still right to strap them in I feel. Reading about this has brought a tear to my eye more than once. My thoughts are with them.

In message , Lee_D writes

Someone I know went missing last week and took his own life at the weekend. Tragic.

Don't want to say too much publicly but I'm afraid you're colleagues in Cheshire didn't exactly cover themselves in glory, Lee.

Couldn't find a boat on a canal even when they'd been told where it was.

hugh uttered summat worrerz funny about:

Sounds like a terrible situation.

They've got to be better than their opposite numbers at this side of the world - spend 2 days walking past a car containing a body outside the house in which they were looking for said body. They are now proving significantly better at making excuses than finding bodies.

On or around Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:16:07 +0100, "Nige" enlightened us thusly:

nevertheless, it's the drivers that cause the crashes... This was said by someone in response to an article about a "killer hill" in Dursley, where someone had gone out of control in a lorry, crashed and demolished the pub at the bottom (again). OK, sad story and so forth. The mag had been and looked at it and commented on how dangerous it was, and this bloke wrote in and said that the road is just a bit of tarmac, and if treated with suitable respect it's NOT inherently dangerous.

He then went on to relate a recent incident at the silly roundabout in Hemel, where one of the approach roads is downhill. Our hero was making a sensible and circumspect approach, having selected a low-ish gear and slowing down, when he was overtaken by an artic which charged down the hill, locked up all the trailer wheels with much tyre smoke, crossed about 3 potential give-way lines at about 30-40 mph with the trailer swaying "like a racing yacht" and hanmmered off down one of the exits. Apparently there were skid marks from the locked wheels extending from before the first mini-roundabout to beyond the second one. No doubt, had there been an collision as a result of this, people would have blamed the junction for being dangerous...

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