Re: Finding an address for a truck firm

Sep 23, 2004 301 Replies

I don't. The system is only an aid. It won't stop the most determined drivers doing things like that.

And you're right again. We are going to need serious retraining if and when such a system is implemented which is why I think it should be done in stages, ie the driver can switch it off at will initially. An EU report on accident prevention measures states that any ISA type of speed limitation could cause frustration and a false sense of security amongst drivers.

All I will say is this : Since speed limiters on large vehicles have been introduced, we haven't had an increasing number of accidents on roads caused by driving on the limiter on unsuitable roads, although exceeding the number of vehicles exceeding the lower limit has increased.

David B ( snipped-for-privacy@daveb07890.fsnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

So why don't we just skip all the expensive unreliable technology, and just

*insist people can drive* in the first place?

Because, of course, 80% people (the ones who it's actually aimed at) won't just leave it permanently off until they HAVE to turn it on, will they?

IMHO there are now so many cars on the road now, which is why IMHO something like this is needed. Back at the time when say, the M1 was opened it would have been pointless.

Yes and no. There will still be speed cameras around both static and mobile and such a system could prevent them going 34 in a 30 and getting a ticket because apparently looking at your speedo is more important than looking at the road ahead.

I think he means let it overrev.

Some engines can take this - if a medium engine can take 300 - 400* more RPM I'm sure that a small lorry diesel can take similar overrev treatment

  • I know of one engine which had 1500rpm for traction and 2500rpm for military.

Quite agree that is why you now see white marks on the hard shoulder stating start and finish of measured mile.

No such thing as Police FORCE. Now known as Police Service and has for some time.

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Hear, hear.

Harder tests, regularly repeated, and a lot more suspension of licenses for safety related offences.

And all the so-called "Safety" Camera Partnerships to be disbanded immediately.

Better training would also help agreed.

We're not going to have zero collisions realistically, but by reducing the mean speed of vehicles as you say the severity and the chance of an accident occuring at all are reduced significantly. I read somewhere that even a reduction in the mean speed of vehicles of 1 mph is shown to reduce the level of accidents.

In message , David B writes

This is not free, and in any case there are studies contradictory to the idea that the rate is reduced as well as the severity; this one for example:

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The conclusion is fallacious.

The reason is on the SafeSpeed site somewhere

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butI can't find it right now.

David B ( snipped-for-privacy@daveb07890.fsnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Something like "teaching people how to drive properly"?

Look - this is the real world.

Take one important aspect of driving - setting speed appropriately - out of the hands of the driver, and you can *guarantee* that they will pay EVEN LESS attention to their surroundings.

Don't even think about quoting HGV limiters as a response, because the skill and attention levels of the average truck driver - yes, even including the paddies and eastern europeans - is LEAGUES ahead of the average Nissan Micra-shod grandma or Vectra-man.

Your car slows to 30 mph on the motorway and the car behind with greater mass ploughs into it.

His 'news groups' line, on reply to your message, will contain only the group in your 'follow up to' line. If you've set it to follow up only to a group that (as far as his server is concerned) doesn't exist then it will be rejected.

Note that I'm not slagging at you, you are obviously none too sure of the system and seem to be trying to learn.

You have just tempted me into getting a recent copy and having a look..

Hmm, still a horrible interface IMHO, and although it's easy enough to click select all and click 'set' when it asks which groups to follow up to, it still mangles the new followup header. Could be something I'm missing but it seems awkward as hell. As for what you 'should' be using, it's a case of whatever suits you best. I'm not in a position to comment as I've always loved Agent. Out of respect for the authors it's one of the (very) few pieces of software that I've paid for. I'm not so keen on version 2 however.

That is not to say that paying is compulsory of course, astalavista.box.sk is a still excellent. (Don't go there using IE mind you..)

ftp://ftp3.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/a32en193.exe

Dave J.

You consider that a reliable source? ROFLMAO!!

Brimstone ( snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

It's just as reliable (or biased, if you prefer) as virtually any other source.

One man's chip on his shoulder over a speeding ticket that should have been long forgotten.........

Really? Have you ever read the rantings of Paul Smith in various NGs? I suggest you go back into the archives if you haven't.

Or ... You're driving along in a pleasant haze, foot flat to the floor in a 30mph, the limiter comes off and you ram the car in front.

That's one bit of history I wasn't aware of. It all makes sense now.

Brimstone ( snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Yes. He's barking and on a personal crusade which knows no logic.

Have you ever read the rantings of Chief Cunstubble Brainstawm?

The scary difference is that we're paying him a small fortune and he has P-O-W-E-R!

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