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I already have. The Microsoft Softcard for a start and 86-DOS was a CP/M clone.

I thought you claimed you knew all there was to know about computing in the early days of your beloved Apple?

The extra Z80 card happened to be the Microsoft Softcard that allowed you to run CP/M on an Apple II.

All that guff installed though - and you wonder where all the drive space, ram and cpu time goes.

iTunes does music. iTunes talks to iPod. iPod talks to car, home and work systems.

VLC plays everything video without having to load up codecs, or XBMC.

Windows Media Player finds far more. On iTunes, I have a lot of stuff I have to drag and drop art into from Amazon.co.uk.

Doesn't alter how it does it. You can either have the horrific mess it makes or manage it yourself.

But I'm running Windows so Windows built in sharing and WME does that already and I only have one computer running iTunes so I don't need it.

So, there isn't a 'lack of album art', then?

If it's available on iTMS, then it'll get the artwork.

Same as any other system that relies on an online store to grab the artwork.

No, you're wrong.

I have iTunes manage my library, it's all done as Artist/Album - can't see what's 'horrific' about that.

But iTunes does need it, it's all part of the integration with wireless iTunes devices and other machines. It's essentially part of the package, in the same way Quicktime is.

Just checked on task manager - Ace with Back to the Future 2 playing is using between 5 and 13% CPU, and about 20MB RAM. I bet iTunes would use loads more. And Ace and Winamp are fairly light spplications in terms of drive space consumed.

Not IME. Some things I've tried out on VLC have ended up with colours going all weird. Hence me using Ace. Even now I've got something that could happily run iTunes - mainly because I've seen how resource-hogging it is on a s**te PC, so now I've got a better PC, there's no point in clogging things up to the same relative degree by using needlessly resource-hungry apps when lighter ones do the job equally well.

Heroes, playing in VLC on the laptop, streaming over the network in SD, 2% Streaming a 1080p, 68%.

I'm telling you that you have never used an iPhone, are you that short of reading comprehension?

So everything after that was s*it, of course.

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Right, so according to you Apricot wrote MS-DOS because they sold a computer that could run MS-DOS?

Right, so according to you Apricot developed the original IBM PC because they sold a clone of the IBM PC?

The Atmos was certainly better. I had one of those. It had a proper processor, made efficient use of RAM and had a proper keyboard. I've still got it around here somewhere.

Oh and you could buy a proper HDD a proper floppy drive and a halfway decent printer/plotter for it.

Way better than the Spectrum.

No, there IS a lack of album art compared to WMP.

Some stuff which is available on iTMS it's not found the artwork for.

Import a compilation with many different artists such as a "Dance 09" type thing. You end up with every track installed into a folder under the artists name instead of all the tracks installed into a folder of the album name under "compilations". Even when you've tagged them all as part of a compilation, they look horrendous. If you've a lot of compilation albums, you very quickly end up with hundreds of sub folders under the \iTunes\ folder.

But why do they need to install it for the Windows version?

No, you've just made that up.

No, you've just made that up.

Please prove me wrong.

Meanwhile...

Steve Jobs commenting in 2007 on the lack of 3G functionality. His reasons are quite ridiculous given the abilities of 3G mobile phones on the market at the time:

"When we looked at 3G, the chipsets are not quite mature, in the sense that they're not low-enough power for what we were looking for. They were not integrated enough, so they took up too much physical space. We cared a lot about battery life and we cared a lot about physical size. Down the road, I'm sure some of those tradeoffs will become more favorable towards 3G but as of now we think we made a pretty good doggone decision."

Would you like me to prove you wrong about the native ability to shoot movies and copy'n'paste?

Nope. It's all there in computing history books for anyone to see.

Never said they did. Would you care to post the exact words where I said they did? I said they were involved and they were.

Every time you've rebutted me and actually you claimed you knew all about it because you were working in IT in those days.

Likewise and the Oric-1 as well.

More RAM, high resolution video modes, non of that colour clashing, better sound. Shame the Atmos was less supported than the Oric-1 for software. I remember that the done thing back then was to take the case off an Atmos and shove an Oric-1 board in it.

Its only problem was that it was French so doomed to failure.

They went with EDGE, which, at the time, for their biggest market, was absolutely the right thing to do. There is very little real-world speed advantage in 3G over EDGE. HSDPA is a different matter, and at the iPhone launch, very few phones had HSDPA either.

Add to that the fact that 3G is battery hungry and many 3G phones were a tad large compared with GPRS phones, too.

It's a phone, not a video camera. I've *never* used the video feature on any of my phones, and not many phones offer copy and paste, either.

(OK, Palm and WinCE devices do, but one is dead technology and the other is so clunky to use it's not worth having)

The point SteveF was making is that, despite the stuff that you consider to be missing based on a spec. sheet, the iPhone is actually a device which you actually use, rather than having something which has loads of features buried so far into the menu system, you never use them anyway.